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I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...

by cognac in

and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.

so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.

all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.

Gringa

Cognac,

We just had a thread recently about something you brought up. Wishing your non-believing friends and relatives would die so they could be on paradise earth with you.

Once your eyes are opened you will see how this "loving" gesture is so very sad. JWs are forced to ignor important people in their lives and not enjoy all the riches they can bring us.They destroy familes, they do not bring them together.

I truly do not think a loving God intended it to be that way.

just a simple look at something such as this, without getting too involved in all of the changing doctorines, new light and hypocritical polices, will go a long way in determining if you are on the right path right now.

I do think it is possible that your husband also has doubts. Perhaps he is too afraid of losing you and the family to express himself. Time will tell on this, but I sincerely wish all the best for the both of you. I am glad you have stuck around.

Gringa

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I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...

by cognac in

and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.

so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.

all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.

Gringa

Hi Cognac - 3rd generation Witness here - many, many family members still in.

I can't look up your scripture cause I don't own a bible nor have the inclination to input it into google. All I can tell you is that I had no problem leaving the WTS when they promised me Armageddon was coming the year I turned 18 years old (1975) and it didn't. Now, they will deny that now, but on this site you will find plenty of proof that they DID, IN FACT, prepare all of us for the end.

Having been out many years, imagine my shock to find out that the Witnesses use to celebrate Christmas (found a picture of my mother holding my brother under a CHristmas tree and asked her about it - oh! She says, didn't you know that? They found NEW LIGHT in 1958? that we can no longer celebrate) Imagine my shock to find out that smoking, blood issues, organ transplants - all these things have changed in just the few short years I have been out.

I asked myself, SELF???? If in fact, the JWs are the ONLY religion that God speaks to, why on earth are they getting NEW LIGHT all the time? Why sisn't God make it clear in the beginning when he set this all up? Why have they thought the end would be here in 1914, 1925, 19??, 19??, 200? and now they decide that they better not name a date in the future? COME ON!!!! Let's all get real!

Anyway, that is a part of my story and I am so happy for you! Sounds like your husband is beside you and has had doubts for a while, too. You are in a great position. You will not need to go this alone like many of us have!

Welcome to the board, and now that your eyes have opened, you are going to be amazed at the things you see.

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where to go from here?

by jacethespace in

some of you on here know that i have been fading for sometime now and stopped going to meetings for quite a while but the past month or so i have returned.i am still just not sure whether at the end jws will be found to be gods people or not.. well today i attended the early sunday meeting eager to try and do what i still think could be right and despite the doubts i have about the watchtower.. now to be fair a number of people came and spoke to me said hello and stuff.the majority just didnt bother.but what really got me today was a number of people who i thought were my friends were just hateful.i even held the door open for one of them and they just were so hatefull and gave me funny looks as if i had the plague or something.i left feeling like this is no diffrent to any other religion.

some nice and other people not so nice.all i could think of on the way home was so much for jehovah never forgetting what you have done for him.im starting to wonder whether the bible is really gods word after all.. i just feel im at a fork in the road and dont know what to do for the best..

Gringa

I do not believe this is a bad place you are in - it is a wonderful place, place where your eyes are opening, just like a newborn baby!

You are starting to question all that you have been told and blindly followed. You are becoming your own person. It is sometimes shocking when that lighbulb flashes on, but don't get depressed over it! Rejoice! For you are now finding the truth!!

Enjoy your journey of discovery. Embrace it and grow.

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For My Brother Aaron - I Grieve

by wanderlustguy in

jw
friends

five months may as well be an hour.. .

i grieve - peter gabriel.

it was only one hour ago.

Gringa

Yep, out of no where, it hits me, too. Sometimes I swear I feel his presence, out of no where, too.

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For My Brother Aaron - I Grieve

by wanderlustguy in

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friends

five months may as well be an hour.. .

i grieve - peter gabriel.

it was only one hour ago.

Gringa

You make me cry, wanderlust - I grieve, too, for my Brother Lee - April 3, 2007

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Need some clarification on something my mom said

by Gringa in

i have been out a long, long time.

3 rd generation.

my younger brother died a few months ago, he was 40 years old and had left the "truth" as a teenager.

Gringa

OK, thanks, you all were posting while I made my last post.

So, my mom is just living with her head in the sand trying to believe that my brother was not an apostate, just wandering off of the path. Little did she know, he was a full blown apostate, like me. I thought she knew. Maybe not, but I find it hard to believe she didn't. I think she is in denial.

And since Saddam was never a JW, that is why he will come back....oh, and Hitler, too! let's not forget Jeffery Dahmer. Got it, but my brother won't. OK< yes, I can see the fairness and love in JEhovah now. LOL

So, this makes a little more sense to me now, even though I think it is still fricking weird.

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Need some clarification on something my mom said

by Gringa in

i have been out a long, long time.

3 rd generation.

my younger brother died a few months ago, he was 40 years old and had left the "truth" as a teenager.

Gringa

OK HL, gotcha! That makes sense. I can understand how a JW could come to that conclusion. They are already feeling such guilt by their brotheran, they feel they do not have a chance so better to try and off themselves now and possibly have another chance in the New World. Really sick, isn't it?

Sorry guys, I am still stuck on this one. So, what are they teaching about Paradise earth? Is it really paradise or is it going to be one eternal life test of faith? God, it makes FOREVER really seem like a long, long time.......

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Need some clarification on something my mom said

by Gringa in

i have been out a long, long time.

3 rd generation.

my younger brother died a few months ago, he was 40 years old and had left the "truth" as a teenager.

Gringa

Frankly, if I die and am resurrected to have to live the JW lifestyle all over again - I AM GONNA BE REALLY PISSED OFF!

Are you joking about committing suicide as a way to live forever? I thought I was taught that it was wrong and if you did that, you would not see the new world. When did they change all of this? So, it is now ok to kill yourself?

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Need some clarification on something my mom said

by Gringa in

i have been out a long, long time.

3 rd generation.

my younger brother died a few months ago, he was 40 years old and had left the "truth" as a teenager.

Gringa

OH for God's sake!!! This is getting more and more weird......

I thought we were taught that the 1000 year rein of Christ was God's rest day - to give humanity an era of peace for all their toil on earth. So, what really is this 'paradise" earth you all were so lovingly and eagerly looking forward to? Sounds like a continuation of the same - think about it - your dearly departed spouse is risen from the dead, just so you can see them killed again by the rath of God because they refuse to bow at his feet or they (gasp!) eat an apple? Sounds like paradsie to me!!!!

When DOES the fear of GOD Jehovah EVER end with this fricking wacko cult? Ahhh, yes, that loving God....

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Need some clarification on something my mom said

by Gringa in

i have been out a long, long time.

3 rd generation.

my younger brother died a few months ago, he was 40 years old and had left the "truth" as a teenager.

Gringa

Jesus H. Christ...... so, what happens if they reject it after Armmegeddon? Are they immediately struck down by a bolt of lightening? Are they given any second chances? So, death and destruction are going to continue well into the new system? Is possible corruption of the new systen going to happen by all these wackos getting a "second chance"?

I mean, I have heard alot of crazy things from the witnesses but for some strange reason, for me, this one takes the cake. I really don't remember being taught this prior to 1975 (when I left for good).

I, too, think my mom wants me to die in this sick sort of way.... you are really right, this is really insane. Beyond insane, I am speechless.