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  Steven Unthank: What do we really know?

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.

  my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.

  bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.

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  yourmomma

  ok, my mind is blown. i dont think i can comprehend this. someone please post a new thread, and explain this to computer dummies like me.
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  “INTERVIEW WITH A PROSECUTOR”... Feb. 21, 2012.. Instructions for listening in..

  by koolaid-man in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today feb. 21, 2012, 7pm.

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  two ways to listen to the interview..... 1.. dial into the six screens of the watchtower conference call... 712-432-8710 and when asked for pin use # 9925 no computer is needed!

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  yourmomma

  for anyone of you who were listening to the part where joe claimed that those who said uthank made the child sex club claim were "stupid", here is the link. let the evidence speak for itself. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/211780/1/JW-SEX-CLUB-IN-AUSTRALIA
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  Steven Unthank: What do we really know?

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.

  my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.

  bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.

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  yourmomma

  I just re-read this that was from steven unthank that outlaw posted for him:

  "When it comes to child abuse within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses there is a common pattern I have noticed among many of those who protect the religion and it’s leaders, sometimes even over the children…as long as the children remain nameless and faceless then those who share in these sins by covering them up believe that they themselves can remain blameless. These children have names and faces.
  
  Personally attacking me over my standing up for the children does not wash away your liability, your guilt, or your sharing in the sins of others, if you yourself did nothing. There is such a thing as community fault. You’re conscience is now either accusing you or excusing you. It will never acquit you. Take a good hard look at the face of the child in the above picture and then take a look at yourself in the mirror"

  ok, i am really trying to not get pissed off, and keep a level head. does it not seem as though steve is saying that because anyone had a problem with the picture, we are sharing in the sins of covering up child rape because people who cover up child rape want the victims to remain faceless? so our issue with the picture is not that it was misreprented, but in fact its because we want to keep the victims of child abuse faceless. am i out in left field?

  the next paragraph is really a doozy. is he saying that because we pointed out the picture was not what he said it was in the caption, that we are "attacking" him and that we share "guilt and sins, and community fault" and we are "attacking" him because our " conscience is now either accusing you or excusing you."?

  i mean WTF? how dare he, this is an absolute outrage. again i hope that im just tired from a long day, and am completly misreading these posts from barbara and steven. if not, this is utterly incredible and shocking.
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  Steven Unthank: What do we really know?

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.

  my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.

  bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.

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  yourmomma

  i am so tired of people coming on here and insulting those of us who call bullshit when we see it. am i reading this correctly? someone pointed out that what steve posted about the picture was not true, and now barbara anderson comes on here and calls the people who pointed this out "negative posters" and "JW apologists?" i really hope i have that wrong. if that is what has happened i am extremely sad to see barbara lower herself to this level. i mean, that is like right out of the watchtower textbook. i am blown away.

  and Barbara then posts with a straight face the "its not a picture its an image argument"? are you kidding me? i cannot believe a person with her reputation and stature would do that. again, that argument is right out of the watchtower text book. frankly how dare you. we are not stupid.

  and that you lump all of the critisms, the ones valid and not valid into 1 group is also right out of the watchtower text book. while its been proven the cases are real, and that critism is not valid, it is perfectly valid to hold steven accountable for the caption to the image he posted of that girl, because THAT WAS NOT TRUE! this is the exact quote of the caption "The above pencil drawing is an image of a young child in the Traralgon Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses that was recently raped by a fellow member of the church."

  i feel spat on. im used to that with rick, he has shown his true character on these boards. but i am stunned and saddened that barbara anderson, who i respect and admire is doing this.

  we have been victims of a cult, and have been lied to, told our entire lives what to think and believe, so if some of us ask for proof of things, or call bullshit when we see it, there is nothing wrong with that. and we should not be insulted or talked down to.
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  Do You Believe Abortion Is Wrong? Should It Be Against The Law?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what say you?.

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  yourmomma

  i am against abortion in many cases, but im not going to force my morals (as the above poster said) on other people. i do think that there should be education available to women (not indoctronation by anti abortionists) who are thinking about having one. and i think that late term abortion should only be done under the most dire situations. i would be for a cut off peroid that a women has to decide by maybe the 2nd trimester? i think there is a middle to be had, but not with extermists on both sides barking the loudest.
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  Steven Unthank: What do we really know?

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.

  my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.

  bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.

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  yourmomma

  the cases are 100% real and verified. However, what I would like to know is what the reasons the procecuter decided to drop the case? was there not enough evidence? or is this just an issue of someone being paid off? i find the pic to be too much, and if it turns out to be not what he says it is, then he owes us an explanation. but these were real cases the really got dropped, that is 100% verified in the threads. how much merit did they have? that is something i hope is eventually answered.
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  THANK YOU Steven Unthank

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ohiocowboy has just posted this information on the two other threads dealing with the sudden collapse of the unthank cases.. i don't know steven unthank, but i just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart for having the courage against overwhelming odds to try and bring the watch tower society to justice over their deplorable neglect when it comes to protecting children from abuse and molestation.. steven is a man of justice and integrity who i deeply admire.

  his actions will never be forgotten, and i only hope he can find it within himself to continue his work in whatever avenue may become available in the future.. they have won this battle, but they can never win the war.. .

  cedars.

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  yourmomma

  im just stunned that at the very least the watchtower wasent fined and forced to comply completly with the law. what a horrible precedent this sets, and other corperations now have no reason to comply with the law since its clear they do not enforce it.
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  "Get out of the bleachers and into the game"... Memorial 2012 demonstration.

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall thursday, april 5, 2012, after sundown.. close to 20 million people will attend this annual global witness event including active witnesses, relatives and friends of witnesses, bible studies,return visits and still attached former witnesses.

  the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.. many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses and you can be an instrumental force by standing tall and courageously exposing the watchtower organization.. there is no better way to let the watchtower know your revulsion than to broadcast and present your view by standing fearlessly, demonstrating in front of a kingdom hall.. i am fully aware that a handful of the internet therapists who post on this forum will not agree with this method of unmasking the watchtower.. those intolerant, contemptuous critics who will comment on this thread making harsh judgements and finding fault with those who protest are perhaps deep-down wishing they had the backbone to stop hiding in cyber-space, step away from their computer and "get out of the bleachers and into the game" .

  lets make this a global event!......

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  yourmomma

  i noticed in the video he referred to apostates who do not protest like him as "so called apostates". exactly like the watchtower refers to jw's who dont go out in service as "so called christians."

  it seems like rick has decided to really ramp up the insults. he didnt used to be like that. i used to like him and his show, he seemed like a nice guy, but now he justs gets off on insulting people. and its not just people who point out his bad behavior, its anyone that doesnt do things like he does.

  he belongs inside the watchtower.
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  I'd like to hear from a Watchtower apologist please

  by N.drew in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  proverbs 6:16 .

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  there are six things that jehovah does hate; yes, seven are detestable to his soul: lofty eyes, a false tongue, and hands that are shedding inocent blood, a heart fabricating hurtful schemes, feet that are in a hurry to run to badness, a false witness that launches forth lies, and anyone sending forth contentions among brothers.. hebrew:.

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  yourmomma

  jw apologists are almost extinct, good luck finding one, lol
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  "9/11 was in fact....an Attack on Jehovah's Organization!!"

  by RagingBull in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good day,.

  this week is the super special week of activity with one of our favorite jw celebrities...the circuit overseer!!!.

  in last night's talk, he gave sooooo much encouragement...just hearing him made me want to fall to my knees and worship him!

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  yourmomma

  either this CO is out of his mind, or the organization has ratcheted up the lying to a new level. i mean to turn the 9/11 attacks into an attack on jehovahs org is bat shit crazy and totally unsuportable. there is zero evidence of this. are they this desperate that they are making up stories about how powerful the governing body is, that jehovah himself caused them to not get on the elevator? whats next? reports of garret losch healing a sick person at the infirmery? lol