FormerMormon

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  resident mormons: "Big Love"?

  by inkling in

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  i recently starting watching the hbo drama "big love" and was wondering.

  if anyone here who is a mormon or used to be one or is connected to mormons.

  somehow has seen the show, and what you think of it.. .

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  FormerMormon

  I don't watch HBO. If you want to know whether something they say is really "Mormon", let me know.

  Oldflame asked about Mormons believing the Bible and the Hell the bible described... I'm surprised you asked... being a former member and all.

  Mormon hell is poorly defined and contradictory. Major mormon themes like the three degrees of heaven, eternal marriage, baptism for the dead, word of wisdom and temple work WERE NOT MENTIONED in the Book of Mormon. Supposedly the BOM was a "restoration" of Mormonism, but failed to include these major mormon themes. (because these ideas hadn't been made up by Joseph's Myth yet). The Bible/book of mormon describe a bipolar heaven/hell. Later "scriptures" revelealed by sMyth detailed a multi layered heaven. And thus, the confusion of hell within mormon scripture.
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  Mormon Prophet / President dies at 97 years old.

  by Witness 007 in

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  the mormons are without a prophet today since gordon hinkley 97 who served for 13 years passed away due to old age complications.. his was a quiet term for a president since his predecessor had to deal with the 60's sexual and racial revolution.

  {in the late 1960's the prophet told mormons that god now allowed blacks into the priesthood...after years of much contraversey.

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  FormerMormon

  I haven't read Becks book. I am currently reading Rough Stone Rolling with my "believing" wife. It is the only book at Deseret Book (LDS bookstore) that even broaches difficult LDS historical topics like JS marrying other men's wives, JS "translating" the BOM by peeping at a stone in a hat, JS treasure seeking with peep stones and a few other gems. The book is apologetic... it attempts to give answers to these vexing LDS problems, but fails (in my opinion). I am hoping that at least, it will show my wife, that problematic events occurred in LDS history and it's not all fabrications of anti-mormons. I am hoping it will give her a "WTF" moment and she'll realize LDS history has been HEAVILY sanitized and "managed" by evil men. Once we finish this book, I want to read other books by former church historians -turned "anti". Milk before the meat, eh, SusanHere?

  Wish me luck...
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  Mormon President dies.

  by Highlander in

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  http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-hinckley28jan28,0,1888134.story.

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  FormerMormon

  Common human decency precludes people from using false scare tactics and false hopes to extort money, power and fear from people. This IS the legacy of the cult of mormonism. GBH was it's leader. We should be as mournful and respectful of his passing as we should David Koresh, or any other megalomaniac.
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  Mormon President dies.

  by Highlander in

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  http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-hinckley28jan28,0,1888134.story.

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  FormerMormon

  Hilarious...

  I was just reading some posts by former lds members about his death last night. One poster said "He's either finishing up with the handshakes now or he's saying "Oh shit!!""
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  Mormon Prophet / President dies at 97 years old.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the mormons are without a prophet today since gordon hinkley 97 who served for 13 years passed away due to old age complications.. his was a quiet term for a president since his predecessor had to deal with the 60's sexual and racial revolution.

  {in the late 1960's the prophet told mormons that god now allowed blacks into the priesthood...after years of much contraversey.

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  FormerMormon

  Hilarious...

  I was just reading some posts by former lds members about his death last night. One poster said "He's either finishing up with the handshakes now or he's saying "Oh shit!!""
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  Mormon Prophet / President dies at 97 years old.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the mormons are without a prophet today since gordon hinkley 97 who served for 13 years passed away due to old age complications.. his was a quiet term for a president since his predecessor had to deal with the 60's sexual and racial revolution.

  {in the late 1960's the prophet told mormons that god now allowed blacks into the priesthood...after years of much contraversey.

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  FormerMormon

  I am SOOO lost and confused without a "prophet" telling me what to do. How bout you?

  Actually, the blacks/priesthood thing came in the late 70's and under a different "prophet" Spencer W Kimball.

  I hope there is an afterlife. I have had experiences which give me a hope that direction. None of my spitirual experiences mentioned the LDS church. With that hope in mind, I believe Gordon B Hinkley is learning, as I write, what a farce Mormonism is. I suspect he knew it before his death too. He has mentioned that either the church and it's founding stories are true, or it is all false. With the tens of thousands of people BEGGING for answers to historical inconsistencies that are now being revealed on the web, the folks at the top HAVE to know of these serious questions/allegations. The "prophets" have chosen not to answer the big charges, rather they rewrite history and lie and publish the same. They then leave "apologists" who then lie "for the lord" and give the most ridiculous of explanations for LDS historical inconsistencies.

  Now we'll probably just get the same crap, different prophet.
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  What gives us the right to question other's religion?

  by dawg in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently wrote an article about mormonism for a local rag that got rejected, it was concerning mitt romney,and his belief in the mormon faith.

  i wrote it because many people were saying that we have no right to question another's faith in our local newspaper... i said that we in fact do have that right whenever that person is running for president..... my article stated in so many words, that mormonism has been totally refuted both by the scientific community (dna, no ties with istreal and the natives here in the states) and by many of smith's previous actions in his early life... he used seeing stones once before and was arrested for fraud... i said that romney was showing by his religious beliefs that he was illogical, and someone like that shouldn't be president... what got the story booted was when i started in on christianity.. now, don't get me wrong here, i love some of christ's teachings, but if someone is a fundlementalist, then they shouldn't be president either in my mind... .

  so, where do you guys draw the line in your personal lives, when do you feel its appropiate to question someone elses religion?.

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  FormerMormon

  Political prostitution is the oldest religion on the earth.

  Both politicians and religious shamans seek to manipulate people to do what they want. They "sell" the problem and themselves as the solution. Political parties are simply aggregations of these prostitutes selling themselves and their political wares. ANYTIME groups gather to espouse ANY centralized form of coercion, it is time to question every facet of their organization. This is why I am a minarchist libertarian (go Ron Paul).

  That being said, I agree with Gopher, Romney is deluded, but so is Bush, Kennedy or anyone else who subscribes to centralized authorized religion.
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  JWs and Mormons--One of the Same?

  by OMG! Now What? in

  1. watchtower
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  check this out!.

  http://www.cephas-library.com/jw/jw_jw_lds_same_origin.html.

  and this is just as interesting, if not more!.

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  FormerMormon

  I think the bloodlines thing/ common origins is ludicrous.
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  Ex-Mormons

  by teenyuck in

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  i went to the ex-mormon board that amazing referenced in his thread.

  http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  it is fascinating!

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  FormerMormon

  Accurate so far... except to get a temple recommend, you need to pass an interview with the Bishop AND another interview with a member of the stake presidency. (A stake is composed of 4-7 wards or congregations) "Ward" is a very accurate term as you need to check into a "Ward" after you discover the insanity that is Mormonism.

  Another great site is postmormon.org
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  was that a Witness on American Idol last night?

  by Burger Time in

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  i had the sneaky suspicion the girl in the picture below was a dub.

  she had never drank, smoked or watched a rated r movie.

  she was married at a young age and just seemed too wholesome.

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  FormerMormon

  Jello Belt... I love it.

  Do JW's have prohibitions on alcohol/tobacco/rated R movies too? There are a lot of Morgs in AZ.

  Morg or JW? I just think she is blissfully deluded. She wont make the top 20.