Posts by bereanbiblestudent

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A People for his Name

by juancarloshg in

author:timoty white.. .

i am looking for this book in pdf.

you have it?.

bereanbiblestudent

Was secret info, since the republished book has the real name on it. The reprint has a index that the old book did not have. Juancarloshg you have a pm, did you read it?

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change of pioneer hours

by watching in

i heard the change to fewer hours did not happen.

is this true?

change of pioneer hours

by watching in

i heard the change to fewer hours did not happen.

is this true?

It's also possible that several witnesses read it here or elsewhere on the net. But the future will show if it is so. Last change was not as big a change as they like us to believe since 90 hours was based on 1000 hours a year and the 70 hours was just that 70x12=840 that was only about 13 hours less then the previous 90 and not 20 hours as they liked us to believe.

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A People for his Name

by juancarloshg in

author:timoty white.. .

i am looking for this book in pdf.

you have it?.

bereanbiblestudent

You have a pm. The author had this book reprinted with his name changed to Tony Wills. The Autor says he is a witnes

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Did you ever get a green handshake?

by Awakened at Gilead in

as a former missionary, i would eagerly and greedily look forward to going home and seeing local brothers and sisters.... i would try to give as many public talks and service meeting experiences as possible.... at either of these venues, i could generally take home anywhere from $100 to $300 from all the $20 or more green handshakes.... get-togethers were also an excellent tax-free money making venue (see all your old friends, and get cards from them)... and would generally net from $500-$1000 for a get-together (after an absence of at least a year or more).... so a trip to the us could easily bring in $2k..... tax free.... plus all the perks while visiting the us... the friends that treat you to nice restaurants, lend you their car, etc..... anyone else want to share their green handshakes stories????

let's expose greed green handshakes for what they are!

indulgences for the rich, greed for the clergy order of special fulltime servants!.

bereanbiblestudent

I think that those that got them where very glad that people supported them because when you do not have much you are glad to have a little more. I always was very grateful for the money and other stuff I got, because the money the society gives is not so much and even when you where a regular pioneer secular part time work did not bring much. Ye I know that was a choice people make but a little more is always handy. But I was always scarred that I would look different at people because I did not want to treat people that did not give something different or be expecting money from people just because they gave me money at one time or another. Many of the bethelworkers send prepublications like dvd's etc to those that supported them if they know that they like that, but that is just a way to say thank you for most and with only bethelallowence you can not send everyone a copy, because then you cannot pay for youre toothpaste.

concordance to nwt in dutch

by bereanbiblestudent in

the concordance to the nwt has been released in dutch after many years of hard work.

they probably finally used the computer to finish the job.

is the enghlish version still available i thought it was out of print?

bereanbiblestudent

The concordance to the nwt has been released in Dutch after many years of hard work. They probably finally used the computer to finish the job. Is the Enghlish version still available I thought it was out of print?

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new tract campaign next year for the memorial

by bereanbiblestudent in

just heard that there will be another tract campaign next year to invite people for the memorial.

bereanbiblestudent

Just heard that there will be another tract campaign next year to invite people for the memorial.

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Watchtower Languages

by cameo-d in

a few years back, a jw friend told me that the watchtower houses the largest language library in the world because they have the magazines translated into every known language.

do any of you know if that is true?

everytime i see the babble fish for translation on a website, i wonder if her story was true and if perhaps watchtower has contributed to the internet powers or some of the groups that have provided these translations and if more language translations would be available in the future as more countries are opening to internet services.

bereanbiblestudent

>What year was that Blondie? Thanks Joker 10 says 450, so I am wondering the time frame difference.

There is a difference in the translation of the Watchtower and the number of languages in which publications are translated. For example many languages only have 1 brochure or a tract that is translated.

I wonder if the average of the Watchtower is just for the public edition since the study edition is a very limited printing. that must take the average down.

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Oppressive wolves. Who are they according to the wtsociety?

by bereanbiblestudent in

the following quotes show some of the views in wt publications about who the opressive wolves are:.

"hethis is the one to be revealed.

he is the one referred to in verse three as that man of sin, the son of perdition.

bereanbiblestudent

The following quotes show some of the views in wt publications about who the opressive wolves are:

"He”—this is the one to be revealed. “He” is the one referred to in verse three as “that man of sin,” “the son of perdition.” Notice how Paul describes them at Acts 20:29, 30: “I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.” These apostate leaders of professed Christians were to grow in strength and influence, and as soon as the restraint was out of the way they would take over." w68 4/1 p18 so they are christian leaders of churches other then jw's

"In time, apostate “oppressive wolves” appeared and did “not treat the flock with tenderness.” But how glad we are that elders among Jehovah’s Witnesses do not practice such tyranny! " w89 9/15 p16 So they are apostate wolves

"The expression “that evil slave” draws our attention to Jesus’ preceding words about the faithful and discreet slave. Yes, the “evil slave” came from the ranks of the faithful slave.* How? 3 Before 1914, many members of the faithful slave class had high hopes of meeting with the Bridegroom in heaven that year, but their hopes were not fulfilled. As a result of this and other developments, many were disappointed and a few became embittered. Some of these turned to ‘beating’ their former brothers verbally and consorting with “confirmed drunkards,” religious groups of Christendom.—Isaiah 28:1-3; 32:6. 4 These former Christians came to be identified as the “evil slave,” and Jesus punished them with “the greatest severity.” How? He rejected them, and they lost out on their heavenly hope. They were not, however, immediately destroyed. They first had to endure a period of weeping and gnashing of teeth in “the darkness outside” the Christian congregation. (Matthew 8:12) Since those early days, a few other anointed individuals have shown a similar bad spirit, identifying themselves with the “evil slave.” Some of the “other sheep” have imitated their unfaithfulness. (John 10:16) All such enemies of the Christ end up in the same spiritual “darkness outside.”
*and the footnote to this said:"In a comparable way, after the death of the apostles, “oppressive wolves” came from the ranks of anointed Christian elders.—Acts 20:29, 30." "w06 3/1 p2 So they are anointed christian elders now known as Bible Students who defected from the society

But how glad we are that elders among Jehovah’s Witnesses do not practice such tyranny! w 89 9/15
Why can oppressive wolves not point to elders in our time?
Have elders in this time really never acted as oppressive wolves?

Elders that act oppressive seem to be protected by the view that they are not implied, have you ever tried to say that elders acted oppressive and noticed how you are looked upon. You are not forgiving enough that is why you look at the elders faults he is just a human with mistakes etc.. Are some of the replies you might get.
You have to forgive 77 times. Yet if an elder is making the same "mistake" of being oppressive over and over again and not just with 1 person but with a whole lot of people, without telling that he is sorry, should you forgive him or should he be warned and after some time should he no longer be serving as an elder?
Yet everytime he does it is looked at, as the first time since the previous time is supposed to be forgiven even if he has not said that he is sorry.
It looks to me that the scipture in acts 20:29,30 speaks of 2 sort of people oppressive wolves that do not treat the flock with tenderness (elders) and men that will rise from within the church that will speak twisted things (apostates) and even when an elder or a priest etc. can turn apostate the second group does not have to be from amongs them.

I do not say that all elders are oppressive, yet some might very well be and by not saying so, many witnesses that have encountered behaviour like that might stop going to meetings or end up on apostate websites so it seems strange to me that the wt society would not protect the flock and say it like it is. That some elders are oppressive wolves and that action against them should be taken by first warning them and secondly if they would not listen they should no longer serve as elders.

What do you think is meant by oppressive wolves?

3 versions of the Harp of God pdf

by bereanbiblestudent in

there are now 3 versions of the harp of god available for download 2 have 1921 as date and 1 has 1928 .

the link is for 10 versions scanned by google but only 3 are full view and available for download.

http://www.google.com/books?uid=852929969918013690 and search in labels for harp of god.

bereanbiblestudent

There are now 3 versions of the harp of God available for download 2 have 1921 as date and 1 has 1928

The link is for 10 versions scanned by Google but only 3 are Full view and available for download

http://www.google.com/books?uid=852929969918013690 and search in labels for harp of god

or copy and paste the following link in order to go direct to the Harp of God listing

http://www.google.com/books?as_labels=the+harp+of+god&uid=852929969918013690&hl=e

searchwords to the left are leading to other downloads by Russell and Rutherford like What say the Scriptures about spiritualism?

If you are outside the US you may need a proxy server in the US to download

Also at the Archive is a different version of What say the Scriptures about spiritualism? : Proofs that it is demonism by Russell {in full color}

http://www.archive.org/download/whatsayscripture00russrich/whatsayscripture00russrich.pdf