saw this on greatcrowd.net.
this is it in a nutshell.... http://www.greatcrowd.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000061
Jigrigger,
This link didn't work (for me). I got a sign-in screen for greatcrowd.net. I don't think that's what you were trying to point out to us!!
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
hi gang,.
man, what a brouhaha we have going on now, eh?
i wonder if all could please reply to this post with your list of log-on names.
OK I must confess I use 2 different names. "Gopher" here, and "Midwesterner" on the Game Show Network discussion board! URL: http://www.gameshownetwork.com (click on TALK)
Yeah, when things get a little too hot and heavy here, I go over there for some light-hearted posting. Love them game shows! (Match Game is the funniest!)
Oh, they have their spammers and whiners too! LOL -- over TV game shows, of all things. I guess ANY subject can be viewed with life-vs.-death intensity.
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
i'm 18. i wonder if there are any other people as young as me.
Hey Fred,
I doubt what you said
Honest doubt leads to honest evaluation and personal growth, 2 things of which you are in dire need.
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
if that was already posted yesterday, i apologize.
i've been too busy to be here much.. i watched the tv show, third watch on monday night.
the paramedics went to an apartment of an elderly woman who was having heart failure.
Ozzie,
This is a weekly nighttime American TV drama. It tells about a group of men and women who serve the city of New York as police officers, fire fighters, and paramedics in the fictional 55th precinct.
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
here is a question:.
how many jws fix a turkey dinner on thanksgiving day?.
i have a hunch that quite a few do.
Path,
You're right, it's not a big deal, this JW-eating-holiday-turkeys issue.
However, it does illustrate a point: Lots of loyal dubs (in America) get away with a form of "INDEPENDENT THINKING" by eating their turkeys (perhaps even to the point of excess) today, and doing exactly what the non-JW Americans do.
Why is this form of "independent thinking" tolerated? Probably because it doesn't threaten the functioning and/or financial health of the WT Society.
However, other forms of "independent thinking" (consult 90% of the posts on this discussion board) are NOT tolerated. It just raises the point, WHY is some "independent thinking" okay, and others not? Hmmmmm....
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
not witness related, but this just goes to show how fanatical people are getting over airline security.
i think i worry more about nuts like this than the terrorists.
absolutly crazy.. http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-10-25/cover.asp.
Chappy,
Hopefully people will learn not to leave their common sense at home. Hopefully this thought will start coming true, cited at the end of the article.
I do think people will maybe turn their minds back on and acquire some common sense.BTW, to make a link clickable, just place a non-blank character in front of it:
* http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-10-25/cover.asp
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
i remember the old witness joke about the pope going to heaven.
when he gets to the pearly gates they are locked and he demands entry.
the angel on guard says, who are you?
Thanks for sharing the info from the recent WT magazine. Some of us are, ahem, unable to practically obtain it ourselves!
These kind of shallow "joyful" experiences are the kind that would make me feel "so good to be a Witness!" But in each case, it seems like the JW's swooped in to take advantage of the emotional turmoil causd by the recent terrorist attacks. Or else they offered them some pie-in-the-sky "wait on Jehovah, he'll fix it in his due time" type of message.
Paragraph 14 is a prime example. A lady "felt bad" and "wanted to somehow help." So what was she shown? A scripture that makes a vague promise that God will comfort the mourning ones. A thinking mind might ask, exactly when will he do so? Why do awful things continue to happen? Hasn't Jehovah's sovereignty already been proved to anyone's satisfaction?
And instead of being shown how to make a real difference during the tragic days, she was given a tract, in which no doubt it was explained that the only way to make a difference is to "do God's will" of preaching Brooklyn's good news.
Comfort for the mourning? Nah...a pie-in-the-sky diversion.
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
just got the new email alert on new watchtwoer literature campain:.
wts rushes out more literature: a regional victoria-based writer on wol notes 3 new tracts specifically designed for muslims have been written: "the greatest name, who are jehovah's witnesses, and hellfire -- is it part of divine justice?
many jws are also now ordering the 2002 yearbook.
Tess (I don't want to call you NWT, it might confuse you with that certain Bible translation, LOL!),
There will always be people on the fringe like Gary Trudeau of the Doonesbury strip. He'll never lose the 60's liberal-hippie mentality.
What I was referring to was the main American news networks: ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and FOX. By and large they've given the president and his staff a lot of elbow room, a lot of benefit of the doubt, and much supportive coverage. The news operations are simply reflecting the mood of the American people, who are consistently giving Mr. Bush an 85% approval rating on the job he's doing. This is notwithstanding the fringe elements such as Trudeau, who will always be free to hang around and yap their nonsense.
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
i was looking for the scripture about who will inherit god's kingdom and can't find it because i packed up all my books and stored them.
is there mention of gluttony being one of the things that will keep you out?
proverbs 23:20 says a drunkard and a glutton will come to proverty.. proverbs 28:7 says one having companionship with a flutton humiliates his father.. so if i can't take blood transfusions, be a drunkard, lie with same sex people, etc.
Judith,
What ISP said was always the reason (or often, the excuse) I heard. For example, "Poor brother fatso, he must have a GLANDULAR disorder leading to him being such a large size." Or, "I know some people who eat like pigs and never gain an ounce!!"
So I guess it isn't just weight alone that determines gluttony. If you want a serious answer to this question, I couldn't find a scripture explicitly stating "Gluttons shall not inherit the kingdom".
But I found a couple of verses that may apply. 1 Corinthians 5:11 says to quit mixing in company with, among other things, greedy persons. You could suppose that a glutton is 'greedy' for food, and you'd be correct.
The other verse that would discourage serious JW's from visiting the buffet 7 times a week is found at Titus 1:12,13. In verse 12 Paul tells us that a prophet of Crete calls his own people "always liars, injurious wild beasts, unemployed gluttons". Then in the next verse he says to keep reproving people with that spirit, that they may be healthy in the faith.
I'd say it's good to avoid gluttony, just to be healthy period!
[edited for spelling]
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
just got the new email alert on new watchtwoer literature campain:.
wts rushes out more literature: a regional victoria-based writer on wol notes 3 new tracts specifically designed for muslims have been written: "the greatest name, who are jehovah's witnesses, and hellfire -- is it part of divine justice?
many jws are also now ordering the 2002 yearbook.
Logical, please live up to your name. Your continued bashing of the American government is totally ludicrous. It is incumbent upon all nations that they realize terrorism IS a worldwide threat to their freedom, not just that of the United States of America who happened to be targeted in September. I know you don't like your prime minister Tony Blair, but even he can see the logic of what the American government is trying to accomplish, namely a more sane world. Or would you rather let the terrorist groups of the world continue to tramp all over the world with no consequences?
Nowaytess, you are correct that people would choose the freedom of life in America over other places. I don't know why you picked Poland, which last I heard is a "free" country, although mainly poor. Are you implying people should go where the riches are?
And while US President Bush isn't perfect, I agree he is about as genuine as you can expect a politician to be. More importantly, he's a damn fine leader. I don't understand why you say the media is against him! They haven't been, since the attack of September 11.
GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
