hey..i'm from the philippines and iglesia ni cristo definitely makes a lot of money coz members are required to give 10% of their salary as tithe and i think they're also prohibited to eat blood but transfusions are ok(not sure tho) but hmm all i can say is that filipinos are such suckers for imported stuff....which obviously includes religion
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White man`s religion
by JWD ini was in the philippines some time ago.
the big religion there is a group called `iglesia ni cristo`(literally church of christ).
an indigenous group which sprung up around the turn of the century.. it has since become hugh(in the philippines).
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Problems after JWism
by chrisauld inhi everyone, i'd just lke to see if anyone has experienced any of the problems i have as a result of leaving j-dubs.. i know that it is quite common for people to have anxiety or 'panic' attacks.
these are when a person feels uncomfortable in a certain situation that can result in them feeling as if they are about to die.. i have noticed that since leaving, i have had quite a few of these attacks.
i don't know if it is coinsidence or attributed to.... i tend to get them in social situations, whether it be on a bus, just generally talking to people, walking down the street, eating at tables with people.. i have had to go to the doctor because i have had heart palpitations(fast heart beating).
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hey chris..hmm technically i'm still active but i never was and would never be an "efficient" kind of jw. well my problem before when i was still trying to be a good jw was my conscience...the jw teachings has programmed my conscience to not do this and that (referring particulary to bdays) i mean i'm just a teen who wants to go to my friend's party but there's this battling between my mind and my conscience i think..my mind's telling my conscience that hello there's nothing wrong with it...(i mean even if i'm jw i still go to bdays) ...but of course when i'm at bdays...i feel guilty so i don't fully enjoy it as i should...and i hate that feeling...but well as time went by i guess it's slowly being deprogrammed as i am being categorized more as a lousy jw..hmm my mom also feels guilty whenever she allows because she knows that she cannot not allow me....hmm i'm also a sociable person like in school i was never the quiet type who followed every rule..actually i could even pass as the notorious type but not really the bad as in BAD student.. actually i was not really like a "normal" jw because i didnt allow anyone to stop me from being who i really am...but of course my conscience bothered me and i hated the feelingggggg......it made me feel lousy, evil, unworthy....hmmm.
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choosing a camera
by gotcha inhello..is anyone here into photography...i would want to take.
a beginner's photography class so i need to get a camera ..i'm thinking of a canon rebel 2000 or maybe a nikon n60..could someone suggest something?and i would want something which i would not have to change immediately..thankss.
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hey bijou thanks so much for replying!...actually i was thinking of either the nikon f60/n060 or the canon rebel 2000 coz these are the ones within my budget..the nikon doesnt have a depth of field preview..and i think im more inclined to getting a canon because im the type who wants those perks and hi tech stuff....so there....abt the f3 i think it's manual i would want a camera that i could learn from and also one that i could use as point and shoot...what u think?thanksssss
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choosing a camera
by gotcha inhello..is anyone here into photography...i would want to take.
a beginner's photography class so i need to get a camera ..i'm thinking of a canon rebel 2000 or maybe a nikon n60..could someone suggest something?and i would want something which i would not have to change immediately..thankss.
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hello..is anyone here into photography...i would want to take
a beginner's photography class so i need to get a camera ..i'm thinking of a canon rebel 2000 or maybe a nikon n60..could someone suggest something?and i would want something which i would not have to change immediately..thankssgotcha
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still in doubt
by gotcha init's my 1st time to post here..i'm basically an open-minded person.
so it has always bothered me to think that there is only one true religion.i've always told this to my mom but she thinks otherwise.
i love my mom so much that i would do anything to make her happy but she knows that i have doubts.
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hey dorky
thanks! that's what i think too...it really depends on the person..some really need this and that and they eventually get on to the religion which basically fills their needs...i think religion is good when it helps u become a better person but if it fails then maybe you could find other ways/paths to lead u to become a better human being..i'm happy the way i am because i intend to do things which i want to as long as it doesn't hurt others but of course some things that i want to do are against the rules of jws right? so i'm trying to deprogram my conscience of some things..do u think that's fine?..and maybe if someone knew that i was like this maybe i'd be good as a dfd member rt?ohh well...
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still in doubt
by gotcha init's my 1st time to post here..i'm basically an open-minded person.
so it has always bothered me to think that there is only one true religion.i've always told this to my mom but she thinks otherwise.
i love my mom so much that i would do anything to make her happy but she knows that i have doubts.
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hello...but the thing is i'm already baptized...i'm still in college so for now i'm still under my parents(my dad isn't jw too)...sunday mtgs are fine with me but what i feel is that too much is being asked of me so that what i do becomes "just for the sake of doing". maybe there are just too many things that don't seem right anymore..but i hope that things would get clearer....life! hehe
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What did you do?
by StiLLinTruth into all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.
come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.
the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?
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hey still,
i'm still active technically but inactive at heart..so what do u suggest now? i believe that it would be ok for anyone to hold on to a religion which his conscience allows him to as long as he has exhausted all possibilities/reasons and still come to that conclusion that it is true. but maybe what has caused my being inactive at heart is that people inside the org are just so judgemental..i couldnt bear telling others that the only for you to be saved is by joining a single true religion..there is but one path right? and i think that that is love...but love can be found in so many ways not just in a single religion. so what is your basis for saying that a certain religion is true? i believe that only God could judge so...
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still in doubt
by gotcha init's my 1st time to post here..i'm basically an open-minded person.
so it has always bothered me to think that there is only one true religion.i've always told this to my mom but she thinks otherwise.
i love my mom so much that i would do anything to make her happy but she knows that i have doubts.
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still in doubt
by gotcha init's my 1st time to post here..i'm basically an open-minded person.
so it has always bothered me to think that there is only one true religion.i've always told this to my mom but she thinks otherwise.
i love my mom so much that i would do anything to make her happy but she knows that i have doubts.
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hello thanks for the reply ...hmm i tend to believe in the Bible but the problem is that before you could interpret you must first know the language and the culture behind it..knowing the language is hard enough what more the culture behind it..like saying "cool" now would not mean temperature because of our culture rt? but im still finding ways to get to know the truth..i've spent time in live chat and im planning to get the greek interlinear(?) bible..for further studies and research..and i've also chatted with vsecret and she may also welcome some advices with regard "hope" and death/afterlife
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still in doubt
by gotcha init's my 1st time to post here..i'm basically an open-minded person.
so it has always bothered me to think that there is only one true religion.i've always told this to my mom but she thinks otherwise.
i love my mom so much that i would do anything to make her happy but she knows that i have doubts.
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it's my 1st time to post here..i'm basically an open-minded person
so it has always bothered me to think that there is only one true religion.i've always told this to my mom but she thinks otherwise. i love my mom so much that i would do anything to make her happy but she knows that i have doubts. it's fine with her that i have doubts as long as i go to the meetings and all. unlike you guys here, i've never been one of those efficient jws..i could be categorized as "spritually immature".i hold beliefs which are against there doctrines and for me a well informed and formed conscience is more powerful than laws imposed by people in religious orgs. the things is that i'm in a dilemma..so i just want someone to talk to. you can icq/email or chat with me. thanks hehe =)