MochaLatte

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  Witness Sister suffers a Stroke - See Niece & Nephew 1st time ,11 years

  by flipper in

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  well , my sister who is 56, a witness, suffered a stroke a few days ago and i saw her at the hospital yesterday from afternoon till mid evening.

  she is doing better than a few days ago as she is able to finally move her right arm a little bit which she had not been able to wednesday after the stroke.

  she can talk , but is still speaking with difficulty a bit .

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  Flipper, I wish the best for your sister. Thanks so much for sharing that wonderful experience with your niece and nephew. Stories like these give me hope for my friends and family still on the inside. I hope you're able to stay in touch with them. ML
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  Drinking & Jehovah's Witnesses

  by minimus in

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  you know, i knew a lot of bethelites and every one of them loved their booze.

  as an elder, i would entertain alot of the cos, dos and bethelites and their wives.

  it was not unusual for the wives to get loaded while they were at my house!

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  The only keg parties I ever attended were at Bethel. Outside of Bethel one of the congs I attended had several brothers who made their own beer. It was common after bookstudy for the friends to reconvene at another location to drink and they actually referred to is as The Afterglow. As far as I know, no one there got into any trouble until one of the bros had a Luge party. I guess somebody thought that was taking it a bit too far, and there was a service meeting talk condemning the party and anyone who attended. (I was invited to that party but, unfortunately, couldn't make it. Not that I'm a big drinker.)
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  If you had a Time Machine would you stop yourself being a Witness???

  by Witness 007 in

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  what if you wen't back in time and stopped your mother from opening the door to the witnesses...and your family never came into the truth!!

  what if you risked changing everything else in your life...not having kid's or the same marriage partner...would it be worth it.

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  I just told my husband a few days ago that if I could go back in time and stop the sister who came to our door back in the early 1970s and started a study with my mother, I would do it in a heartbeat. That wish is borne of the frustration of not being able to speak with my family now, and especially not being able to speak with them about how I really feel about the Witnesses without definitely labeling myself an apostate, which would alienate them even further (if such a thing is possible since I don't hear from them now unless someone in the family has died). My parents are such good JWs they have always judged their children based on what form of full-time service they were or were not in, or, how much time we spent in service. They also judge us on how slim we are, but I can't blame that on the JWs.
  
  I would've gone to college instead of spending up my youth pioneering and in Bethel, and more importantly I would've had children. I am working out a way to go to college now, but as for the other wish, that ship has already sailed.
  
  
  Ladylove: Congratulations!! Keep up the good work!
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  my family that are not even jws get annoyed about me coming on jwd

  by looloo in

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  do any of you have this problem ?

  my hub is disfellowshipped and not in the least bit interested in this site , which i find amazing considering everything that has happened , its not even a case of him being to scared to mix with apostates because he doesnt like jws and does not believe they have the truth , when i try to tell him anything , he tells me hes not interested, end of conversation .

  there is so much i want to discuss with him (regarding the child abuse thing that has affected our lives ) do any of you identify with this ?

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  I wouldn't say my husband is exactly annoyed, but he has made comments to the effect that he doesn't understand why I need to visit this site so often. (The Hubs is also DFd.) If he sees me here he'll say, "Oh, are you visiting with the apostates?" Although we agree on just about everything about how being JWs negatively affected our lives, he doesn't think about it as much as I do. One big reason for the difference (IMHO): My husband doesn't have any JW family, whereas almost all of my family are still in. Additionally, I was raised a JW and he wasn't. I think that's why our recovery has taken different paths. I do speak with him about things I've read here, although I try not to go overboard with it.
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  only part of meeting you enjoyed

  by martinwellborne in

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  for me it was bible reading, where you could express your own opinion, in line with present truth of course.. pre the change it was awful listening to some fool telling you his opinion of bible highlights.

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  One of my siblings and I came up with a tradition to keep us awake when we happened to be sitting together during particularly boring talks. We'd begin turning in our Bibles to scriptures having to do with sleep. We competed with each other to find the funniest scripture about someone falling asleep. A couple of our favorite Sleepy Scriptures were the one referring to Eutychus, who fell out of the window when Paul droned on and on during a boring talk, Isaiah 29:10a, "For upon you men Jehovah has poured a spirit of deep sleep, and he closes your eyes...", Daniel 8:18a, which reads, "And while he was yet speaking to me, I had become fast asleep on my face on the earth,"etc. It's amazing what extreme boredom will do and we silently giggled to ourselves through a number of talks, (which, I guess, did help us to stay awake). It was my hope that if anyone noticed us turning to scriptures when no one else was doing so they'd think we were doing some cross-referencing of our own. I'd have to say I DEFINITELY enjoyed those meetings. By the way we were both adults and Bethelites at the time.
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  Need some advice

  by KICKED OUT in

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  i have not been on here in a long time but i have always valued the advice of everyone, so here goes.....i am dfd and my wife has never been a part of the org.

  we are getting ready to have our first child in may.

  my mother who is now living in patterson(at one of the motherships) speaks to me every 1 to 2 years.

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  I would never allow myself to be disrespected in my own house. The fact that the offending party was a brainwashed well-meaning parent would not matter. It's your house, your family. Putting your foot down on this issue would not mean that you don't love and miss your mother. You deserve her love and respect as she deserves yours, but as long as she allows the Watchtower to dictate her family relationships, that kind of normalcy gets thrown out the window. If you say no to this you're not doing it out of any ill will toward your mom. You really have to insist on being treated with respect, especially in your home.
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  Birthdays are now a matter of conscience????

  by sacrebleu in

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  2. beliefs

  i just heard this.

  i can't believe it.

  does anyone know if this is true?.

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  MochaLatte

  Wow, that was harsh Kiera. I AM over it. Sheesh.
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  Birthdays are now a matter of conscience????

  by sacrebleu in

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  2. beliefs

  i just heard this.

  i can't believe it.

  does anyone know if this is true?.

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  MochaLatte

  A couple of years ago (when I was still in) I had to explain to my office manager why I would not be attending my boss's 60th birthday. Everyone in the office was attending and she'd learned that I wasn't going and she thought she should stress to me the importance of my attendance. I'll never forget how embarrassed I felt as I sat there with a straight face telling her about the birthday celebrations mentioned in the Bible and how people were killed and how the early Christians didn't celebrate (that last part I wasn't even really sure about, but I was grasping at straws). I realized that day that what I said to her didn't make one iota of sense, and was ridiculous as hell. I'm glad I was forced to go through that exercise as it opened my eyes to how I really felt about the teachings of the Witnesses. I think this was just about the only teaching that I (privately) completely rejected even while I was still a JW. I didn't attend the party, though, because I wasn't brazen enough to just go for it. Oh, and later on when work slowed down and they had to start laying people off, guess who was the first to go???
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  Surely the WT wouldn't LIE about motel/hotel accommodations?!?

  by RisingEagle in

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  i was eating lunch with 3/4 of my active jw family earlier today and they were bemoaning the idea that they were going to have to leave the central oklahoma area very early tomorrow morning to find a room so they could attend an assembly on the otherside of the state.

  they had tried calling the 'approved' hotels and motels in the town where the assembly is being held and they were all booked.

  so that left them looking at the rest of the approved list and having to travel as much as 50 miles away to get a room.

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  I would have to agree with fokyc re: the lying.
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  Were U Surprised When Certain People Left The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  when certain "pillars" left the fold, were you shocked?

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  MochaLatte

  When I was still in I was surpised at certain ones who left who had been very prominent. Now that I'm out, I've found myself thinking about people who left and didn't come back during all the years I was a JW. There were several who were extremely intelligent, and I remember others saying they were too smart for themselves and that their intellect made them haughty. Now I realize they were really smart enough to see that the Witnesses had it wrong. I wish I could find some of those people now.