BTS - "An unpleasant lesson"? That's putting it mildly.
MochaLatte
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More Evidence that Jehovah Is a Tyrant
by WTWizard ini have observed that jehovah god is far from the loving father he portrays himself to be.
stifling my sex drive, and then exploiting it by using it to get me into a cult, hardly qualifies god as being loving.
and neither does continuing to stifle the sex drive after i am trying to leave the cult and quite likely using the hounders to reclaim me as their slave.. i found another web site that any theist should urgently look up before looking into any religion, whether jehovah's witnesses or any other "christian" or islam religion.
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Satan overkill
by Switch ini remember in my teen years thinking about the constant warnings of satan "transforming himself into an angel of light" and wondering how in the world did i stand a chance against a demon?!
a demon thats had thousands of years to suss things out and trick people in various different ways without them even knowing.
he led angels to rebellion.
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MochaLatte
As a JW child I totally bought the idea of Satan. Now that I'm thinking for myself and forming my own thoughts on who/what God is or if he exists, I find the idea that Satan exists to be a hard one to swallow. If I have to accept that the Devil exists to believe that God exists, I begin to question ALL of it. I attend a church along with my husband and while I have an easier time accepting that there is a God, whenever I'm told that if I'm a Christian then the Devil is after me, the whole sermon starts to go south for me. Why would I want to be a Christian when I get a special added bonus of attacks from a superhuman creature? Thanks, but no thanks!
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If The Society REALLY Cared About Gas Prices They'd Implement Program Now!
by minimus inthey are full of sh*t!
if i were a practicing jehovah's witness, i'd seriously take the governing body's words to heart immediately.
since they don't want to add any further burdens on us, i would not "wait on jehovah (them)" but instead i'd follow the spirit of their timely words and cut out one more meeting night and save gas money!
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MochaLatte
I was thinking maybe they have to make some changes in the Ministry School in order to shorten it, and the School schedule for 2008 must be completed as published.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
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Pentecostals? Should I be afraid of them?
by ThomasCovenant injust finished watching the film 'borat'.
in it there is a scene where he attends what i assume is a pentecostal church meeting.
for all i know it is a setup.
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MochaLatte
jamiebowers:
I think the Pentecostals use the expression "slain in the spirit" for what happens when the Holy Spirit comes down on them and makes them fall out. Usually there's an attendant around to catch you. Occasionally, there's no one and you just land on the floor. One woman tried to sue a pastor because she was "slain in the spirit" and fell and hit her head.
I've been attending a Pentecostal church recently and I find the people there to be sincere and very community-minded. My husband helps sometimes when they provide food and clothing for the needy in the area. I'm not looking to join and I don't agree with many of their beliefs, but we have heard some good sermons that we benefited from, and we enjoy the choirs. I do agree that ultimately they believe they're right and those who don't believe as they do are going to hell. I don't agree with that but it's not something they talk about all the time.
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MochaLatte
Sorry...just worked my way back to your first post on this. I didn't see that one at first.
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MochaLatte
Thanks for the link. I work with a Danish lawyer who told me about this film. Her mom is sending it to her from Denmark. The lawyer isn't a JW but knows I was one and thought I'd be interested in it. I think the name of the movie is Two Worlds or something like that.
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Witness Sister suffers a Stroke - See Niece & Nephew 1st time ,11 years
by flipper inwell , my sister who is 56, a witness, suffered a stroke a few days ago and i saw her at the hospital yesterday from afternoon till mid evening.
she is doing better than a few days ago as she is able to finally move her right arm a little bit which she had not been able to wednesday after the stroke.
she can talk , but is still speaking with difficulty a bit .
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MochaLatte
Flipper, I wish the best for your sister. Thanks so much for sharing that wonderful experience with your niece and nephew. Stories like these give me hope for my friends and family still on the inside. I hope you're able to stay in touch with them. ML
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Drinking & Jehovah's Witnesses
by minimus inyou know, i knew a lot of bethelites and every one of them loved their booze.
as an elder, i would entertain alot of the cos, dos and bethelites and their wives.
it was not unusual for the wives to get loaded while they were at my house!
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MochaLatte
The only keg parties I ever attended were at Bethel. Outside of Bethel one of the congs I attended had several brothers who made their own beer. It was common after bookstudy for the friends to reconvene at another location to drink and they actually referred to is as The Afterglow. As far as I know, no one there got into any trouble until one of the bros had a Luge party. I guess somebody thought that was taking it a bit too far, and there was a service meeting talk condemning the party and anyone who attended. (I was invited to that party but, unfortunately, couldn't make it. Not that I'm a big drinker.)
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If you had a Time Machine would you stop yourself being a Witness???
by Witness 007 inwhat if you wen't back in time and stopped your mother from opening the door to the witnesses...and your family never came into the truth!!
what if you risked changing everything else in your life...not having kid's or the same marriage partner...would it be worth it.
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MochaLatte
I just told my husband a few days ago that if I could go back in time and stop the sister who came to our door back in the early 1970s and started a study with my mother, I would do it in a heartbeat. That wish is borne of the frustration of not being able to speak with my family now, and especially not being able to speak with them about how I really feel about the Witnesses without definitely labeling myself an apostate, which would alienate them even further (if such a thing is possible since I don't hear from them now unless someone in the family has died). My parents are such good JWs they have always judged their children based on what form of full-time service they were or were not in, or, how much time we spent in service. They also judge us on how slim we are, but I can't blame that on the JWs.
I would've gone to college instead of spending up my youth pioneering and in Bethel, and more importantly I would've had children. I am working out a way to go to college now, but as for the other wish, that ship has already sailed.
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my family that are not even jws get annoyed about me coming on jwd
by looloo indo any of you have this problem ?
my hub is disfellowshipped and not in the least bit interested in this site , which i find amazing considering everything that has happened , its not even a case of him being to scared to mix with apostates because he doesnt like jws and does not believe they have the truth , when i try to tell him anything , he tells me hes not interested, end of conversation .
there is so much i want to discuss with him (regarding the child abuse thing that has affected our lives ) do any of you identify with this ?
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MochaLatte
I wouldn't say my husband is exactly annoyed, but he has made comments to the effect that he doesn't understand why I need to visit this site so often. (The Hubs is also DFd.) If he sees me here he'll say, "Oh, are you visiting with the apostates?" Although we agree on just about everything about how being JWs negatively affected our lives, he doesn't think about it as much as I do. One big reason for the difference (IMHO): My husband doesn't have any JW family, whereas almost all of my family are still in. Additionally, I was raised a JW and he wasn't. I think that's why our recovery has taken different paths. I do speak with him about things I've read here, although I try not to go overboard with it.