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and what other measures can be taken against a jw who does something the elders dissapprove of, short of disfellowshipping?.
(this may sound like a dumb question but i was never a jw)
- forbid you to to field serviceThis last one is almost never given as punishment.
The undisfellowshipped JW - no matter what they may have done - is supposedly better than any non-JW; of course, this includes suspected and confirmed child molesters. Nothing comes between the WTS and statistics/preaching hours; nothing; not even the fear of God and the protection of the public, including innocent children. Sigh.
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i just came across this comment by albert:
"he who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt.he has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal
cord would suffice.
onesong: no problem. Interesting Einstein quotes. Einstein was perhaps humble, but 'arrogance' isn't indeed a terrible thing for such a mind :).
tetrapod: Einstein did explain a lot about his concept of "God"; he explained enough for anyone interested to know exactly what he felt. There appeared to be some change in the expression of those views with progressign age. And, unlike his views on Socialism (which views have perhaps been quite successfully 'supressed' by the American press), his view about God are perhaps only confusing when one reads excerpts from quotes.
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i just came across this comment by albert:
"he who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt.he has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal
cord would suffice.
It's important to understand Einstein's view on God (or, shall one write "God"). Einstein's God represented a system that's orderly, ruled by rules which are discoverable by those able to continue searching for them. Several times in his letters he made this clear. Einstein did remark ‘Subtle is the Lord, but malicious He is not', but his explanation of this is that ‘Nature hides her secret because of her essential loftiness, but not by means of ruse’; that may begin to make clear Eisntein's continued use of the word "God". Einstein's God is intangible and impersonal (he did comment that the idea of a personal God is childish), very different from the concept of God that's perhaps well known. He at a time described his position on the issue of "God" as an agnostic, but this doesn't make any one escape being classified as either a theist or an atheist. He also resented people quoting him to support the view that there is no God. Since one is either an atheist or a theist, it takes just a tiny bit of reading between the lines to see where Einstein stood.
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i just came across this comment by albert:
"he who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt.he has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal
cord would suffice.
onesong:
Einstein crediting his insights to God? Which God is what? You've got references? Should be interesting. I don't understand Einstein to believe in a personal god.
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my mom's got this pioneer sister friend who stays at our house every weekend (she stays in some remote town that's far away from the hall) and i go into my bathroom cabinet this morning and she used up half the bottle of daily oil control cream for my face i had in there.
i mean ladies, you already know how expensive those things are!
and i would always just use a pint size amount so the bottle was filled to capacity.
willowmoon: good word. :)
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just guess!!
come on, just take a guess.. wow you got it on your first try.
2 watchtowers and 2 awakes.
Fire starter at the fireplace. Y'know, you roll them in with the wood; Watchtower and Awake burns quite well. Next to recycling, this's as good as it gets.
is it killing 42 children because they called prophet elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?.
is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king david does a counting of the people?
(it is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much).
Back to Lot:
a) had two drunken ;) banging sessions with two daughters
b) declared one of the faithfuls
No bad deed shall go handsomely unrewarded.
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it appears that the work around for the quotes site will be a long term effort.
as the wt plays whack-a-mole with the new sites that pop up, we need to know where the new ones pop up.. so here is my attempt to bring some order to this process.
let's make this a running thread where we put all our links to the mirror sites.. the downside is that the wt will know where to go to find out where the new sites are they have to squash.. the upside is that it is alot easier to put a site up then it is for the wt to take them down!!!.
Looks like it was handed over to the law firm; Ms Maher must work there...
But one never knows, the firm may want to hussle the WTS for more website shut-down jobs, and email to Ms. Maher could let them know cones of Quotes 're all over the place now
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greetings.. i have started a project that i hope will stay online for times indefinate, even to times indefinate.
you can find it at www.reexamine.org .. i started working on it in october and it is still a work in progress, however because of the shut down of the website located at http://quotes.watchtower.ca i felt that i should release the site in "as-is" condition, instead of waiting until it was completely finished.. currently, there isn't a lot of content in the 'wiki' section of the website.
hopefully in the next few days and weeks that will change, however there are still programming issues that i have to work out before that can happen.
Have we not forgotten non-English speakers?
The original Quotes website had many other languages...
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greetings.. i have started a project that i hope will stay online for times indefinate, even to times indefinate.
you can find it at www.reexamine.org .. i started working on it in october and it is still a work in progress, however because of the shut down of the website located at http://quotes.watchtower.ca i felt that i should release the site in "as-is" condition, instead of waiting until it was completely finished.. currently, there isn't a lot of content in the 'wiki' section of the website.
hopefully in the next few days and weeks that will change, however there are still programming issues that i have to work out before that can happen.
Reexaminer:
great (budding) site!
More content, more download-ables, plus, it needs to pop-up on google when anyone searches for "Jehovah's Witnesses"
Cheers.
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