Good question!
Posts by cognac
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by closer2fine incan anyone recommend an ex-jw web page to look for friends i've lost touch with over the years?
just in case some of them have also left the org.. thanks!
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Searching for Lost Friends...
by closer2fine incan anyone recommend an ex-jw web page to look for friends i've lost touch with over the years?
just in case some of them have also left the org.. thanks!
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cognac
Good question!
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Instead of Arguing/Debating or telling JWs that they aren't correct...
by cognac inwhy not put new information out there that they can accept and let them do what they want with it?
why not even defend and reason on what could later be justified in there own minds?.
that's what i've been doing with a lot of jws including hubby and it seems to have the greatest affect without them putting there defenses up.. for example, i said to hubby the other night regarding blood fractions: "i dare you to raise your hand and say: so, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself.
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cognac
Why not put new information out there that they can accept and let them do what they want with it? Why not even defend and reason on what could later be justified in there own minds?
That's what I've been doing with a lot of JWs including hubby and it seems to have the greatest affect without them putting there defenses up.
For example, I said to hubby the other night regarding blood fractions: "I dare you to raise your hand and say: So, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself." He wouldn't do it. Why? Cause something didn't seem right about that.
Another example: My mom said that now MJ has a chance at the resurrection. I said, "Well, it's a good thing he died then!" She fumbed over her words a bit but I bet she thought about it!
Hubby felt guilty about us fornicating before marriage. I showed him other bibles where it said that was ok as long as you get married. I showed him the scripture and said "Do what you want with this information." He very happily accepted that as truth.
The point being is to actually go along with what they say but at the same time giving them things to think about... I think this helps not to bring defenses up.
Defending what could be later justified in there own minds regarding JWs:
Case in point: Hubby brought up how MJ could no longer talk to LaToya cause she was d'ffed and how he didn't agree with that. I said, "Well, LaToya could be lying." He said, "Yeah, that's true!" I said, "However, that is a plausible situation considering how JWs can't speak with d'ffed ones."
Any other ideas?
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I feel so discouraged
by mouthy inthat micheal jacksons kids are being raise in the wt.
how very,very sad.
i am so upset about that..
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cognac
Due to the fact that them and now the JWs are highly publicized, maybe the media will bring light to how awful this cult is. Maybe they themselves will become apostate and shed light on everything. This could turn out to be a very good thing and I am very hopeful about it. This could help a lot of JWs get out if anything happens especially with all the media coverage... Keep hopeful... They seem to be going against it already in that they want to live with Janet.
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cognac
That song "sweet home alabama" is great! The new rendition is totally awesome! Does that count? If not, maybe this would help:
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cognac
oh, and:
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Barbara Anderson just returned from Europe where she vigorously criticized WTs dangerously harmful policies.
by koolaid-man informer bethelites and wt critics, barbara and joe anderson, just returned from a month in europe where barbara spoke at five conferences in three countries.
she was also interviewed by the italian press and met with a number of italian religious officials.
in france, she met with french government officials and representatives of anti-cult organizations.
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cognac
Good for them! I hope the governments recognize them as a cult instead of a religion. Any links?
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
Thanks otwo!
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
do you think the pedophile problem would influence your husband to finally leave the cult
He s/w Mr.Flipper a year and a half ago about that. I don't think he really understands how big of a problem it is and would probably say that he watches her closely anyways. I mean, me personally, I don't ever allow her around anybody but family without me right there and he knows that... Any sites with any statistics regarding the issue that I can point out to him?
Have you mentioned Ray Franz to him?
Yeah, I left the book out by mistake over a year ago and he threw it out...
Isn't it interesting how we are very concerened with individuals rather than numbers? People in need log on here and everyone is on it with advice.
Yup, shows you where real love is!
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
Thanks everyone for your encouragement! Yes, Mr. Flipper, it does take time and a whole heck of a lot of patience!
PS. Sorry Oomps...