Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!

by cognac 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • cognac
    cognac

    It actually all started a bit stronger when MJ died. He loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and JWs. He was also watching a lot of youtube videos. One thing that really struck him was how LaToya said that MJ came up to him after the elders counceled him and said he could no longer talk to him and then how after MJ went up to a worldly guy and got what was really good advice in my hubbys eyes.

    I knew something was going on because he was running really late to the meeting on Sunday and then stopped at Dunkin Donuts for a coffee on the way, lol.

    So, last night after the meeting this is how our conversation went:

    Hubby: Brother PO patted me on the back last night. He's still dangling that carrot in front of me but I really don't care anymore. (Meaning he's dangling the carrot of letting him be an MS.)

    Cognac: Is it a weight off your shoulders?

    Hubby: Yeah, it's nice to know they don't have anything over me anymore. So and so is an MS and he has tons of talks he has to do. That's work. I don't want that. Did you notice I didn't wear my jacket?

    Cognac: Yeah, but didn't think much about it. Why?

    Hubby: Because I wanted to show the elders that I didn't care.

    Hubby: Started talking about the whole LaToya and MJ thing and said that he doesn't "know what he's about to say is apostate or not, but he thinks the whole disfellowshippig thing is crap. You should always be able to talk to your family. Maybe not about spiritual things, but you should always be able to talk to them."

    Cognac: You know, the same thing could happen with us and our daughter.

    Hubby: I won't raise her that way.

    Cognac: Yeah, but if she goes to the meetings, she could very well be indoctrinated there and whatever we do may not make a difference. What if she were to get disfellowshipped one day?

    Hubby: I'd still talk to her.

    Cognac: You could get disfellowshipped.

    Hubby: I don't care. But I would still go to the meetings.

    Cognac: They would never reinstate you though because you are not repentent because you talk to your daughter.

    Hubby: I don't care.

    He also said that the whole dfing thing is what is bringing down the JWs because its making people see that the JWs are not loving people. Ok, that's about all I can remember.

    PS. Before we even had our daughter we agreed we would take her to the meetings for a couple of years and let her decide if she wanted to go or not. What 3 or 4 year old would want to go to the meeting? I'm just giving my hubby time before I stop bringing our daughter there altogether. I know that some of you probably don't agree with what I am doing, but what I am doing is working for my particular situation. And we also agreed before I got pregnant to celebrate the holidays as long as we call them a different names. Although, since we decided that he told me there is nothing wrong with celebrating the 4th of July and Thanksgiving.

  • Psychotic Parrot
    Psychotic Parrot

    There's plenty wrong with celebrating thanksgiving, & i'm saying that as an atheist

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    This is great news. It really sounds like he might be progressively thinking for himself and seeing the destructive nature of the cult.

    It is so wonderful to hear of a Dad expressing that type of unconditional love for his child. We could use more of that.

  • Mary
    Mary

    That is fantastic news cognac, and your husband hit the nail on the head when he said that the whole DFing thing shows the world that the JWs are NOT a loving group whatsoever if they practice this crap. If ever a group of people were trained to not have "natural affection", it's the Dubs.

    When the time is right, you should show your hubby the section of my project that I did on DFing and how it has no biblical support.

    I actually had a similar experience with my JW sister this morning about the blood doctrine. Since the ban on transfusions is hitting home with them now, they're really feeling the heat and are wiling to accept it if it means saving my b-i-l's life. Still, it's hard on them as they've been taught their whole life that Jehovah will murder you for taking a transfusion. I called Crooklyn yesterday (yes I blocked my number) and asked to speak to someone about the blood doctrine. I had my project sitting in front of me and I asked the brother several questions, pointed out their flawed reasoning (ie. if the ban on blood was for everyone on earth, why were the Israelites allowed to sell unbled meat to foreigners? How is 'pouring out the blood of a dead animal to make atonement for the life that was just taken even remotely similar to taking blood from a live human to save another humans' life, etc.) The dipshit had absolutely no rebuttal for me and simply urged me to "wait on Jehovah" and that if anything needs to be changed, He'll do so through the "faithful and discreet slave".

    My sister was actually quite glad that I told her as she's realizing more and more that the Slobbering Body members are a bunch of vampires who are literally sucking the life out their followers.

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    A result Cognac

  • cognac
    cognac

    lol, Parrot. There's no way I'm gonna refute him!

    This is great news. It really sounds like he might be progressively thinking for himself and seeing the destructive nature of the cult.
    It is so wonderful to hear of a Dad expressing that type of unconditional love for his child. We could use more of that.

    Thanks leaving!

    good idea Mary. Can you send me it again if I pm you my email? Somehow I must've lost it.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    Great news cognac.....keep us informed, we are all pulling for you!!!!

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Mary,

    :That is fantastic news cognac, and your husband hit the nail on the head when he said that the whole DFing thing shows the world that the JWs are NOT a loving group whatsoever if they practice this crap. If ever a group of people were trained to not have "natural affection", it's the Dubs.

    Amen to that!

    Jesus said: "By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves." (John 13:35)

    If this scripture is true, then the reverse of this scripture must also be true: "By this all will know that you are not my disciples, if you do not have love among yourselves."

    Jehovah's Witnesses can be described as many things, but being a group of loving, caring people is not one of them.

    Farkel

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Thanks for sharing Cognac! Ah the wonders of God's InterWebs!

    Like Mary brought up, what are his thoughts on the "Bible" Study right now on blood?

  • cognac
    cognac
    I actually had a similar experience with my JW sister this morning about the blood doctrine. Since the ban on transfusions is hitting home with them now, they're really feeling the heat and are wiling to accept it if it means saving my b-i-l's life. Still, it's hard on them as they've been taught their whole life that Jehovah will murder you for taking a transfusion. I called Crooklyn yesterday (yes I blocked my number) and asked to speak to someone about the blood doctrine. I had my project sitting in front of me and I asked the brother several questions, pointed out their flawed reasoning (ie. if the ban on blood was for everyone on earth, why were the Israelites allowed to sell unbled meat to foreigners? How is 'pouring out the blood of a dead animal to make atonement for the life that was just taken even remotely similar to taking blood from a live human to save another humans' life, etc.) The dipshit had absolutely no rebuttal for me and simply urged me to "wait on Jehovah" and that if anything needs to be changed, He'll do so through the "faithful and discreet slave".
    My sister was actually quite glad that I told her as she's realizing more and more that the Slobbering Body members are a bunch of scum-sucking vampires who are literally sucking the life out their followers.

    That' great! I hope bil gets better and they get outta that cult.

    I actually dared hubby at the mtg last night to raise his hand and say, "So, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself." He wouldn't do it...

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