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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  lol, OTWO... I'm happy that this thread is so far not an argument!

  I've noticed that a lot of the comments are sincere and well thought out! Gives a person a lot to consider when trying to reason and logically think through multiple perspectives.

  I think they also took great pains to portray Jesus as a divine figure, i.e. one who performed miracles, one who was resurrected from the dead, etc. Who in the Greco-Roman world would accept a Savior who wasn't divine? There were already plenty of divine or semi-divine figures in the Greco-Roman mythologies. Jesus had to stand out somehow.

  hmmm, I will remember this perspective when I go to research the history of it all. Thanks!

  If the story of Jesus is literal (pick a Gospel as three slightly disagree and John is completely different) and the lineage is "inspired" as literal, then most of the rest should be literal too. Adam really is just over 6000 years old, a worldwide flood really did happen, God really did confuse the languages and approve of genocide, rape, pillaging, etc.

  I would think that humans wrote the bible as uninspired, however; specific times when God actually spoke to humans would have been inspired. They just recorded specifically what God said along with a bunch of other stuff, there own point of views, etc.

  A lot of different things to weigh out when I go to do research.
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  Nice comments Psac and Amoment! I would think the only think that we could really trust as from God would be specifically what Jesus states and that is even depending on what outside sources can prove to us regarding Jesus.

  Probably the whole bible is simply written by man, however; did they capture what Jesus did state as from God? Also, if Jesus can in some ways be proven wouldn't that mean that the lineage leading up to his birth and the fulfilled prophecies regarding his birth and life would have to be inspired by God??? And if that is true, then maybe some parts are and some parts are not directly inspired from God as AGuest said?
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  Where does the Bible get its authority from, the Bible? Where does it say that the Bible never lies, in the Bible?

  When something gets its authority from itself, it is time to start questioning if it is even valid.

  That's a very good question. I guess the thing to research first would be if there is any historical proof of whether or not Jesus was here. And what does history outside the bible state about the miracles he performed. If those support the scriptures, then I would think the promises he made and the authority that what is stated in the bible as from God would also hold out as true also.

  Does any know anything about that? I'll research it also. What are yout thoughts on that WT and others?
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  Maybe a larger question is why do you have to believe the bible is from God when everything you are saying shows you otherwise? Do you have to have the bible BE from God or if you never ever saw one, would you believe anyway?

  I feel there has to be something more to the bible. Since history seems to point to pieces of the bible being truthful, then I would think that other things such as Jesus miracles would be true. And if those are true, then what he promises should be true also.

  Frankie - Thanks for the links!

  Aguest - Thank-you so much for your input and help! I will do that!

  Inkling - It says in the scriptures that Satan is the ruler of the system. What if that is because God can't win Satan right now for some reason? What if they are about equal in power? What if what happened on earth was recorded in scripture as what Satan did, however, what Jesus told his apostles to write were actually from God? What if there is more to it that we just don't know about?
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  Thanks so much Drew! I'm going to read up on all the info.

  Tues - lol, hopefully it's a bit more then that...
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  Hmmm, interesting Drew. I will check it out. But, the bible does say that it is inspired from God. So, if it was inspired, why does it not make sense in so many instances? Maybe that book will help give me some clarity. Thanks for the link Drew!
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  2. friends

  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  Thanks for your comments. Drew, if that is the case, how do we know which books are from God and which are not? Will that link go into that?
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  How do you know the Bible is from God?

  by cognac in

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  i really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from god.

  i mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances.

  the adam and eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me.

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  cognac

  I really want to believe it, but, sometimes it is very difficult to figure out how it can be from God. I mean, in the old testament, he seems horrible in some instances. The Adam and Eve thing doesn't make to much sense to me. I mean, I would figure that if there was a God, him and Satan would have to be at about equal strength and Satan owns the earth while God owns the heaven, because I can't figure out another way to justify him letting all this suffering take place.

  Then, why does he make everything so difficult to figure out in the Bible? I mean, really... To FURTHER test us? Why? Why can't he just state how it is and then let us decide whether or not to go with him? I mean, I know he wants us to be faithful unconditionally, but why torture us trying to figure out what the heck happens to us after death, what he wants from us, etc?

  I just don't get it... I've spent so much time trying to figure this stuff out and everytime I think I've figured one thing out in the Bible, 100 more questions pop up...

  What are your thoughts about how to justify the bible is from God?
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  A Visitor At Work

  by Cthulhu in

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  so i have not turned in any service time in four months or so.

  this elder, who also happens to be the congregation secretary stops in at my job today.

  i work for a cellular phone retailer in my home town, so he came in and conversed for a bit about his plan and different options we might be able to work with.

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  That's so inappropriate for him to go to your work for that. Would he like it if you went to his work???
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  Hey long time no see!!! I'm a JWD old timer lol

  by Sirona in

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  i used to post here...a lot!.

  just thought i'd say hello to you all...you wonderful people who got out of the jw cult!

  i have come to believe that we are an amazing bunch of people - we made our way despite all the odds and fought for individuality - and won.. even today i was told that going back to the hall would solve my problems (by a jw family member) and i honestly can say that i felt amusement.

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  Hey Sirona!!! Our babies are about the same age! (Mine is a little younger) Isn't being a mom awesome!!!