ok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
My husband was the same way for awhile. He's at war within himself. When he got like that I just avoided the topic of religion and engaged in activities we enjoyed together - like apple picking, walks, dnners, long drives, etc.
Hope things get better soon!
so, hubby and i went to his cousins ceremony for becoming a state trooper.
i thought it was beautiful ceremony and told my parents all about it.
it was an honor to be there.
lol, I know Blondie! It wasn't even worth the argument...
so, hubby and i went to his cousins ceremony for becoming a state trooper.
i thought it was beautiful ceremony and told my parents all about it.
it was an honor to be there.
So, hubby and I went to his cousins ceremony for becoming a state trooper. I thought it was beautiful ceremony and told my parents all about it. It was an honor to be there. I said they go out every day and put their lives on the line for us. They are hero's in my book. I told them how touching it was when I saw a father who works for the military, police force etc pinning his own son knowing firsthand the life that is now in front of his own child. And it brought me to tears when I saw one of them holding his newborn daughter. I told my parents there is nothing like a man in a uniform holding his baby! They commented that there won't be uniforms in the new system.
My mother was put back by all this and asked if they had guns. Hubby and I said of course and told them all about how they were throwing them back and forth to eachother and how it was a part of the ceremony. Then, we showed some of the pics we took and commented on how beautiful the suits were and how they looked like they were from the 1800's.
Then, my father commented that coal miners put their lives on the line and that their jobs are the most dangerous. I started laughing and looked at him funny cause he was defensive about it and it didn't have to do with what we were talking about. So, I just said, "ok , they are hero's too". lol
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
Joe - Not sure if me being a woman has anything to do with it... But, I do know that because I'm new with sales he's trying to be a part of all my stuff...
Just to clarify, we hadn't even officially gotten the sale yet. We were supposed to get it last week. I think he tried to call her to close it before me.
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
Thanks jwfacts. Just pisses me off to no end that he eff's this up and I may end up losing so much cause of it... Especially when I feel like it wasn't simply human error, but he was purposely trying to do something underhanded...
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
If I can't fix this that's about 40k out of my pocket for the year... I worked my a** off on this account. He's says he didn't do anything wrong and she's just using him as an escape goat. He doesn't feel bad at all...
How do you think I should deal with him?
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
Wha happened - What are your thoughts of him calling and emailing her without involving me? Do you think he overstepped his boundaries?
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
This happened on Friday.
i just started in sales recently and have been really good at it.
of course, i grew up a jw, lol.. anyways, i was working on closing an account and took another guy at my work with me to go over the specifications and get quotes and that sort of thing.
well, after the meeting he called and emailed her to ask further questions without my knowledge.. so, i called her yesterday and she completely flipped out about the way he treated her saying that he was pressuring her and bullying her.
Thank you so much for your advice wha happened. The president already knows about it cause my boss walked in midway through the conversation and got the president involved right away. The client loves me and I stayed calmed and just apologized through the entire conversation. I mean, she was yelling she was so mad. Then, I sent a follow up email and she responded that it wasn't my fault and she was going to call the president about it.
She doesn't even want me to call her for awhile to give her time to get over it. I'm wondering if she may feel bad that she took it out on me? I'm pretty sure I called her when she was under a lot of pressure and stress and right after he must have pissed her off, cause she's normally really sweet.
You think she will still do business with me after all that?
