I have gone many times even though I didn't want to. For me, it's helped prevent the walls from going up with hubby and has allowed open communication. Now I'm at the point where I no longer feel a need to go. Once in awhile I do but not really. Life is about compromise as long as you keep true to yourself and your values at the same time. Everything I did has a specific "bigger picture" reason for it. My husband is now going to a spiritual gathering with me this Saturday so it definitely has had positive results! I wish the best for you!
Posts by cognac
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17I'm going to the Kindom Hall to please my parents
by Joshnaz inmy parents are visting from florida and i agreed to take them to the kingdom hall for a meeting, but i'm just doing to make them feel comfortable while they are here.
i told them i'll be sitting in the back with jeans and sneakers playing with my i phone.
i made shure they didn't get any wrong impressions about me returning to the kingdom hall.
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Things you didn't think about before you became a parent
by sabastious ini never had to think about what a massive predicament it is to be watching your 6 month old alone and having a massive dump come along that you know is going to take 10-15 minutes...especially if your child is being really fussy.. -sab.
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cognac
The day after childbirth, lol.
That if there is a god, he would create an entirely new color just for my little girls eyes!
That you could ever love somebody so much!
How many rules of parenting I made up for myself would be broken.
How painful breastfeeding would be at first.
That my toddler would see a piece of candy a mile away and scream bloody murder for it.
That she would start speaking a different language before me.
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Mistresses??
by diana netherton inwhat are your thoughts on them?
would i be a simply terrible person if i became one?.
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cognac
Hope you find your way outta this sucky situation. I know desperate times can call for desperate measures... I will say though. I've lived without a home at all. As in, in my car both in the freezing winter months and in the dead of summer. It was bad. But I will say, when you go through stuff like that and work your way outta it, you learn a hell of a lot in the process. If I didn't work my way outta it, I wouldn't be where I am today. And I'm doing pretty well for what my needs and a lot of my wants (within reason) are. If I had taken an easy way out, I'm not so sure I would have gotten to where I have gotten... I think sometimes struggles will bring you to where it is you need to go.
There was a guy named Dawg on this forum. Great guy. One thing he taught me, is that deep down our own intuition really knows what the right thing to do is. We may fight that intuition because we don't trust its the right way to go, but, usually it is.
But, that's simply my own experience. I hope the best in yours...
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most dont know me here....
by oompa inbut damm it can be tough on the outside!!
!.....hi old friends....it would be sooooo much easier if you work for a company...with normal people around you....but damm if you have your own biz for thirty years with five jw employees out of 15 that pretty much run your company.....well just crap!!
!....anyhwho.....good luck to all moving on....it can be a bitch...but it is worth it....and damm divorce is a bitch...and so is settlement...and so is fukkin alimony!!!!!!
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cognac
ooommmppppssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How are ya??? I miss ya! I gotta talk to you on the bat phone again, lol. I haven't been on here a lot either and didn't know you were even getting a divorce. We gotta catch up!
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Do Elders and Bethelites really follow this site?
by jamesmahon injust a question really and whilst i would not put it past them i sort of feel it is too 'conspiracy theory' for me.
are elders and bethelites officially sanctioned to lurk (or engage) in this or other sites to try to weedle out apostates?
does anyone have any direct experience of it happening?.
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I have to wonder if that's just a coverup and the elder is really an apostate...
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Former WT attorney Olin Moyle's papers at Princeton University
by Olin Moyles Ghost inolin r. moyle was an attorney for the watchtower society from 1935 to 1939. he left bethel in 1939 due to becoming disillusioned with "judge" rutherford's conduct.
a copy of moyle's resignation letter can be found here: http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/downloads/1939%20olin%20moyles%20letter%20to%20rutherford.pdf.
the letter enraged rutherford, and he immediately dismissed moyle and his wife from bethel.
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bttt
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Finally finding my way out...
by cognac inwell, its been about 2 1/2 years and have slowly done less and less.
i've been to about 30 minutes of a meeting in the last month and a half where i stayed out back and with my daughter.. i've been looking for the right timing to leave but had decided i will go anyways by the time my daughter is about 1 years old.
but, it just so happens that my some members of my family including and mostly my parents have actually given me a good enough of an excuse to get out.. they have broken to many rules.
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cognac
lol, hotspur. One of these days!!! I hope soon. I just feel like there is just 1 thing thats gonna happen that makes it all click for him. I've never really felt that close to it clicking with him until now. I just see how many things he sees clearly and you look at him and see his mind is filling up with all these red flags and it just doesn't make sense to him... But, the lightbulb still hasn't actually gone off yet...
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Finally finding my way out...
by cognac inwell, its been about 2 1/2 years and have slowly done less and less.
i've been to about 30 minutes of a meeting in the last month and a half where i stayed out back and with my daughter.. i've been looking for the right timing to leave but had decided i will go anyways by the time my daughter is about 1 years old.
but, it just so happens that my some members of my family including and mostly my parents have actually given me a good enough of an excuse to get out.. they have broken to many rules.
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cognac
Well, its been about 2 1/2 years and have slowly done less and less. But, the time has really come in the last few months for me to slow down a lot more. I've been to about 30 minutes of a meeting in the last month and a half where I stayed out back and with my daughter.
I've been looking for the right timing to leave but had decided I will go anyways by the time my daughter is about 1 years old. That time has come. But, it just so happens that my some members of my family including and mostly my parents have actually given me a good enough of an excuse to get out.
They have broken to many rules. Not just regular rules. Not JW rules. Rules that go against my instinctive morality. They have disgusted my husband to the point where he has said that the elder arrangement has to be a political arrangement. He is still somewhat in though.
I no longer feel the burden of trying to stay in for my family. I never felt the need to stay in for my husband and feel a strong need to get out for my daughter.
When it comes to my husband, I simply don't say anything about it. I just don't go. He hasn't been going a lot either anyways. We are to busy living life and enjoying everything.
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Petition To Stop Yet Another Stoning Of A Woman in Iran--Please Sign
by Justitia Themis inhttp://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-sakineh-mohammadi.html.
web site: http://www.rferl.org/content/fear_for_iranian_woma...background (preamble):infolinks_onradio free europe | radio liberty.
a lawyer and activist close to the case of an iranian woman convicted of adultery say she may soon be stoned to death, rfe/rl's radio farda reports.. .
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cognac
signed. so sad... :(
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I think its a good thing nobody gets or even notices the generation change "new light"
by cognac inno matter what the society does to try to attempt to fix this generation debacle, there is no way they can ever get it in jwa minds that the end will come past 2014.. nobody even gets or understands the change.
nobody cares.
generation will always mean to them up to 100 years!
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cognac
idk, maybe it will go on... But, I can say this. I think there will be a very good amount of people that this will be the last straw for. And, even though years ago when they did the same types of things and they simply recruited and got there numbers back up, I don't believe it will be as easy today to do the same. For a few reasons:
1. This is the information age. With a click of a button people can see very quickly what JWs are all about.
2. They don't have the history and reputation they did years ago. Years ago, everything was exciting! They were new and had new ideas. Now, they have turned that into something very different. They are known very well for there unloving ways and false promises. There reputation proceeds them and the only way they really grow is two different ways: children born into it and third world countries where people simply are not as educated.
3. As I said before, one of the main reasons there numbers will go up is growth in 3rd world countries. These countries are very poor and will not be able to give to the society the money other countries can. Those countries that can give money the numbers will probably not grow very well at all... So, the society will end up having to support this work and get less and less money coming in.
I do really believe that there are a lot of people in it now that are simply stuck. Take my family for example. About 1/2 the people couldn't care less about it either way. They just kinda go to tag along but they don't really care all that much.
The JWs are very different then they were years ago. The newness and excitement has worn off. The old days of using the bible a ton have been replaced with ready made beliefs told to you in WT, Awakes, and so forth. A lot people simply don't even know or care 1/2 of what they believe in.
I do think things are very different then they were before and the BORG doesn't have it as easy as they did before.