Posts by cognac

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

cognac

I don't get how this is ok with them. How does it not eat away at them?

Protecting the flock is not their primary concern. Worrying about their image is. Well, that's certainly biting them in the a**.

Whats crazy to to me is, sometimes you have to say the hell with the rules, and just do the right thing. The GB should absolutely rot for this, but, those elders are just as responsible. Isn't that what all the Nazi's said when brought to trial, "We were just following orders." That's simply no excuse.

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I Am Cait

by cognac in

jw
friends

does anyone else relate to this as much as i do?

the fears, heartache, everything she went through to finally come out... just so courageous!!

!

cognac

Totally agree Promo. I have someone close to me who's dabbling in this sort of thing, he grew up as a JW. Hits close to home with on so many levels...

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The Australian Royal Commission hearings on the JWs handling of child abuse begins here in the US later today. It will be streamed.

by AndersonsInfo in

the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.

we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.

in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.

cognac

Thank you Pants!!!

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The Australian Royal Commission hearings on the JWs handling of child abuse begins here in the US later today. It will be streamed.

by AndersonsInfo in

the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.

we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.

in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.

cognac

Where is the link to the live stream???

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I Am Cait

by cognac in

jw
friends

does anyone else relate to this as much as i do?

the fears, heartache, everything she went through to finally come out... just so courageous!!

!

cognac

Does anyone else relate to this as much as I do? The fears, heartache, everything she went through to finally come out... Just so courageous!!!

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JW Hatred and Elders Apathetic Manners Drove Me Here! Why are JWs fooled in to thinking the WTS Cares?

by Judas Maccabee in

for years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.

with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.

i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.

cognac

Totally agree with Oppostate. People do care and if they don't on this site, they just shouldn't have posted. How rude...

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JW Hatred and Elders Apathetic Manners Drove Me Here! Why are JWs fooled in to thinking the WTS Cares?

by Judas Maccabee in

for years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.

with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.

i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.

cognac

WofJ - he said his parents were supportive.

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JW Hatred and Elders Apathetic Manners Drove Me Here! Why are JWs fooled in to thinking the WTS Cares?

by Judas Maccabee in

for years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.

with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.

i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.

cognac

I say RUN. Run as fast as you can the hell out of there before she gets pregnant.

If you want to work it out, I think you should do marriage counseling while separated and not move back in with each other until changes have been made. Just my opinion...

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Sam Herd’s comment on the 2001 Dateline expose

by Londo111 in

im going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..

he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..

the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.

cognac

Cha Ching - just wondering if they ever said specifically not to go to the authorities. Weird that the elders would go so far as to say she'd be d'ffed for going.

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Sam Herd’s comment on the 2001 Dateline expose

by Londo111 in

im going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..

he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..

the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.

cognac

Was this a rule at some point, that you weren't supposed to go to the authorities or did the elders do that on their own?