I totally understand your stance. I'm getting to that point myself and it's nice to know others feel that way. Good luck in your journey and I wish you the very best.
Sending you a PM.
my wife and i planned on fading but the elders now want a shepherding call and we are just done.
i know that many play the game to try to stay in, but i'm not a game player and neither is my wife.
our families already shun us because we reached out to a disfellowshipped family member.
I totally understand your stance. I'm getting to that point myself and it's nice to know others feel that way. Good luck in your journey and I wish you the very best.
Sending you a PM.
i cant wait for this to get bigger and bigger!!!
its sad that all of these people had such horrible things done to them, but now a bunch of crazy old perverts are going to pay for it!
have anyone heard of a case where they (jw) turn the person over.
to the law???
?.
I knew a JW guy that molested 8 kids. The mom (his wife) found out, and went straight to the police. He's been locked up for years. All the Elders in our hall supported her.
Never occured to me until much later that people would be so stupid as to contact an Elder first or that the Elders would handle these matters in such a disgusting way. Even when I did hear things, I thought it had been those particular elders doing things outside of what they were told to do. How appalling to find out just how epidemic this issue really is.
i posted this as a reply to another thread, but thought it deserved it's own thread to draw attention to this important moment in the day 2 testimony.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4fobrocc8.
This guy makes me sick. He had a choice. Cult or not, he made a choice. He can rot in hell for that for all I care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfj1ecde5fy.
i'm wondering if this is just a hearing or if this commission has teeth?.
some very damning things coming out nonetheless .
I have the same questions as Sir82....
I also wonder how whatever the end result could be, how it could affect other countries.
Hope this ruins them...
for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.
and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.
a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.
for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.
and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.
a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.
I don't get how this is ok with them. How does it not eat away at them?
Protecting the flock is not their primary concern. Worrying about their image is. Well, that's certainly biting them in the a**.
Whats crazy to to me is, sometimes you have to say the hell with the rules, and just do the right thing. The GB should absolutely rot for this, but, those elders are just as responsible. Isn't that what all the Nazi's said when brought to trial, "We were just following orders." That's simply no excuse.
the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.
we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.
in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.