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  BECOME A JW AND YOU CANT

  by Velvetann in

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  can you add to this list.

  become a jw and you cant .

  attend a church school .

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  Velvetann

  You can't wear shorts to a quick build. I was told to put on long pants or leave. And I was only visiting the site!

  You aren't kidding right???? They make up rules like this.

  Remember that scripture in Acts 15:28,29? I thought that was what knowing the truth was all about and how we aren't supposed to be burdened down with unnecessary things.

  I just went and dug out my bible, unfortunately the NWT. I haven't opened this thing in over 20 years, but I just had to quote it right.

  "For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things. To keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idold and from blood and from things trangled and from fornication.. If you carefully keep yourselves from these thing you will prosper. Good Health to you."
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  BECOME A JW AND YOU CANT

  by Velvetann in

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  can you add to this list.

  become a jw and you cant .

  attend a church school .

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  Velvetann

  Hi and welcome Gotcha Baby. Hope you enjoy it here and yes most of us are for REAL and here because we need support and wish to give support to others who have left the LIE and found the TRUTH. How about you????

  Thanks for the input for the LIST. I am trying to compile as much as I can for MYSPACE profile I have about being an EXJW. I can't believe how long the list is and I am sure there is more.

  Myspace profile is at http://www.myspace.com/velvet14 Its about being an Exjw and also the challenge of having been newly diagnosed with MS

  NOT sure about the 2 door car but I am sure it is frowned on not to think of "The Service" when purchasing one. You made me laugh when you said that. Being Real, For sure!!!

  I am thinking of adding You can't be Gay/Homosexual

  Do they come right out and Say NO Oral SEX also? I always thought we weren't allowed but I never saw an actual thing in writing about it.
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  BECOME A JW AND YOU CANT

  by Velvetann in

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  can you add to this list.

  become a jw and you cant .

  attend a church school .

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  Velvetann

  Can you ADD to this list

  BECOME A JW AND YOU CANT Celebrate Mother's or Fathers Day
  
  Celebrate Birthdays
  
  Celebrate Thanksgiving
  
  Celebrate New Year's Eve or Day
  
  Celebrate Christmas
  
  Celebrate Halloween
  
  Celebrate Easter
  
  Celebrate Flag Day
  
  Celebrate Independence Day (Fourth of July)
  
  Celebrate Hanukkah
  
  Celebrate St. Patrick's Day
  
  Celebrate Valentine's Day
  
  Celebrate "Any" Holiday
  
  Sing any Holiday Songs
  
  Eat Turkey on Thanksgiving
  
  Create Holiday artwork in school
  
  Join the Boy or Girl Scouts
  
  Become a Cheerleader
  
  Attend class reunions (No "Worldly" association)
  
  Go to the school prom
  
  Play School or Professional Sports (No competition allowed)
  
  Join any organization that has ties to Christianity
  
  Shop at or Volunteer at the Salvation Army
  
  Donate to Relief Organizations like the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Charities and more
  
  Shop at Church run thrift stores or Garage sales
  
  Attend a Church School
  
  Join the YMCA
  
  Join the Military
  
  Become a Police Officer
  
  Attend Alcoholics Anonymous
  
  Have any job with a gun
  
  Strike against a Company
  
  Salute the Flag
  
  Can't Stand at Public Events while others are Standing to salute the Flag
  
  Sing the National Anthem
  
  Go to War
  
  Wear Clothing Associated with War; e.g. Combats or Army Tops
  
  Learn karate
  
  Vote
  
  Run for any Public Office
  
  Campaign for a Candidate
  
  Contribute to the Presidential Campaign Fund on your tax return
  
  Can join union, but not participate in its affairs
  
  Run for class president
  
  Join Sororities or Fraternities
  
  Participate in holiday parties at school
  
  Gamble, Buy lottery tickets
  
  Date without supervision - young or old
  
  Watch R rated movies
  
  Own a religious picture or statue
  
  Smoke cigarettes, pipes or a cigars Sell cigarettes, pipes or a cigars
  
  Accept/Donate Blood
  
  Store your own blood before an operation
  
  Wear blue jeans or casual clothes to the Kingdom Hall
  
  Wear pants to the Kingdom Hall if you are a female
  
  Wear skirts or dresses that are above the knee at any time
  
  Wear any type of long hair if you are a man
  
  Wear a beard in some Kingdom Halls and areas (judged hard)
  
  Pierce ears if male, other body parts if female
  
  Have any tattoos
  
  Say curse words
  
  Can't be hypnotized
  
  Get divorced unless scriptural (adultery or fornication is committed by one partner) if you do divorce cannot remarry unless ex fornicates first
  
  Say "Bless You" when someone sneezes
  
  Say "Good Luck!", "Wish me Luck", "I was Lucky" or "You were Lucky"
  
  Tell ghost stories
  
  Practice Yoga
  
  Own a Smurf
  
  Eat Lucky Charms Cereal (References to Magical)
  
  Throw a penny into a wishing well
  
  Read Horoscopes
  
  Promote anything Superstitious
  
  Have wind charms because they represent a pagan symbol for scaring away demons
  
  Watch TV shows, "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch", "Touched by an Angel", or "Bewitched"
  
  Say "It was fate" or mention anything to do with "fate"
  
  Engage in any risky acts such as: Sky Diving, Bungie Jumping & Hang Gliding
  
  Have Jesus as your Mediator and Savior
  
  Can't partake in the Memorial of Jesus' death, by eating the unleavened bread or drinking the wine; only allowed if you are from the elite group of the 144,000
  
  A woman can't hold a position of responsibility in the congregation
  
  Wear or own a Cross
  
  Attend another Church (Spiritual Fornication)
  
  Associate on a regular basis with nonbelievers Associate with ex-members
  
  Associate with disfellowshipped ones
  
  Sue another Jehovah's Witness
  
  Marry a nonbeliever (If you do, you are judged hard by the congregation)
  
  Marry in another Church or attend a wedding in another Church
  
  Have a funeral in another Church or attend a funeral in another Church
  
  Pray, including holding your head down, when a nonbeliever prays
  
  Study other religious articles not from the Society
  
  Read negative information about the Society
  
  Question the Watchtower Society on anything
  
  Exercise your on conscience if it goes against the religion
  
  Question the Society or the Organization

  
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  Hello, Newbie here

  by disillusionedandscared in

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  goodevening all.

  i am new here and thought i would introduce myself.

  this is my official first post on this board.

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  Velvetann

  Welcome D&S

  You are seeking the answers in the right place. I have been out for 25 years and had no answers, just was fed up. Coming here a couple of months ago answered all my questions with links to information sites and others experiences.. Finally have peace of mind.

  Hugs from Velvetann

  
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  Went to a JW "funeral" on Saturday

  by Dorktacular in

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  my brother called me late on the 13th to let me know that a friend of ours - who is no longer a jw - called him and said that his dad was being flown by helicopter to the hospital because he collapsed at home and had no pulse.

  they took my friend's dad off life support on valentine's day and he died.

  well, i was debating whether or not to go to the funeral because i have no desire to hang around a bunch of jws or set foot in a kindumb hall again.

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  I so agree with you, thats EXACTLY how JW funerals are, Depressing and not about the person.

  I had a horrible experience with a funeral. MY DAD in 2001, He was DA but my MOM was still active and very into the religion. I am a only child and DA so I didn't want to go to a Kingdom Hall for his funeral, and I told my MOM that Dad wouldn't want that either. So she agreed to do the funeral in the funeral home because of me and my children. She got Ernie Funk from Bethel here in Ontario to do the talk. He was our first circuit servant way back in the early 60's so he agreed even though my Dad wasn't in the truth anymore. My husband wanted to do a Eulogy for my Dad and my Mom said that it had to be "approved" by Ernie. Ernie had me fax it to him and then called me to say it was OK, he had warned me that we were not allowed to say anything against their views at the funeral like maybe my Dad might go to Heaven or something. My husband just talked about my Dad and fond memories.

  That was the high point of the funeral and if it hadn't been for my husbands Eulogy the funeral would have been just horrible. Ernie never mentioned my Dad once in his talk and his talk was an hour. He quoted scripture after scripture and of course made it evident that my Dad may not be in Gods favour for the resurrection. My children and some friends of ours who are not JW's were shocked. It was disgusting. I can't even explain how horrible it is to have lost your Dad and they pretend the funeral is about Jehovah and praising him and condemming the poor man who is dead.

  After they had a reception at some rented place and it was all about having a good time, no one talked about my Dad. My Mom loved all the attention she was getting though.

  When my MOM died in Oct 06 I was in charge of everything and I insisted that the funeral be done in a funeral home, that even though a JW gave the talk I had HIM phone me and tell me what he was saying. I said I want you to talk about HER not your beliefs. So he did and did a good job. I was happy with the talk and did allow a couple of encouraging scriptures to be read, I think he did 4 scriptures, the rest was about what my Mom was like. AT My Dads funeral there must have been 30 scriptures read, it was so boring and depressing.

  Well thats my 2 cents worth

  VelvetAnn
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  OLD PHOTOGRAPHS FROM JW DAYS

  by Dansk in

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  i left the organisation 5 years ago and this morning came across some old photographs from my jw days.

  most photographs were taken in the kh, such as marriages, and at assemblies and many are of people once considered close friends - but now i find it hard to look at them.

  i asked claire, my wife, if she would like to look at them and she said she couldn't bear to, so they went in the bin.

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  Hi Ian

  I grew up a JW, my whole childhood was immersed completely into things to do with serving Jehovah. I have been out 25 years but my MOM died of cancer in Oct 2006, she was still faithfully believing the Lie when she passed on. I had to clear out her house and sell it. I inherited her photos. It took days to go through them all but they mostly were thousands of photos of her and my Dad with JW friends, at countless kingdom halls etc. Serving where the need was great, building kingdom halls. The momentous occasion back in the 60's when they bought a small house and had it moved on a truck bed down the main street of Perth Ontario to the piece of land they had bought. Even a bunch of photos of them doing a pretend door to door "sermon" to fellow witnesses for some kind of brag program or something. I found countless photos of me at assemblies with the stage background showing the year and the place. My Mom had videos of her and my Dad travelling out west in BC and even though my Dad wasn't a witness anymore they had to stop at every Kingdom Hall she saw and take video and photos of it. She was squealing with excitement at seeing them.

  Anyway going through thousands of photos of my MOMS showed me that her whole life was totally with the "friends" or serving somehow. They were special pioneers for years. I found the photos painful and threw most of them away, It brought back bad memories.

  Velvetann in Canada
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  Sorry for myself!!!

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

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  it's friday morning and i am alone in the office (so i have to be here) and i have got a headache (sinus i think) and a terrible tummy cramps and nausea (valentine's dinner was too rich?)...

  i feel crappy and i just needed to share!

  any sympathy will be most welcome!!

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  Velvetann

  You need a big Hug Sweetie. Hope you feel better soon.
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  what is god doing?

  by shadowofbathory in

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  no offense was intended and its great u dont offend easily.

  u may want to consider photoshoping your pic.

  you know i felt compeled to write something because i just could not believe such an immature question could be taken seriously by a few folk and attepts to respond were not tounge in cheek.. anyhum, my bad, great question, stumped me.

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  Hi Loubelle

  I don't know what God is doing, I wish I did. I haven't done anything about religion or thinking about God for years. I listened to so much garbage when I was a JW, none of it made sense and I was fed up with religion and worrying about keeping up with a God that had so many demands. It seems the God of Jehovahs Witnesses is mean and angry and likes to tease us. I don't know what to believe, I am not an atheist but I do think that God is not bothering with us right now. Why does it all have to be a mystery in order to know who he is. Why can't he just present himself in literal terms without all the confusion. That I know is a childish and naive thought. The best I can do is hope being a good person will suffice.

  By the way what is with all the sarcastic remarks on this discussion group. Why are some people here if they don't like exJW thoughts and questions. There is no need to be bitter and mean. That makes those people no better than what they (JWs) are. We are supposed to support each other not downgrade each other. Why did he want you to photoshop your photo, to disquise yourself??? Or just said that to insult you. I don't disquise myself, I want the whole world to know what I am, an ExJW and happy to be one.

  If the sarcastic mean people on here are actually JW's well turn the other cheek like you are supposed to and get off here. Its not very theocratic.
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  HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!!

  by sacolton in

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  i love everyone!

  have a great day!.

  one watchtower to rule them all,.

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  Velvetann

  Happy Valentines Day to you all. Isn't it nice to be able to express our feelings to others without worrying about its origins and if its worshipping a person!!
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  my family that are not even jws get annoyed about me coming on jwd

  by looloo in

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  do any of you have this problem ?

  my hub is disfellowshipped and not in the least bit interested in this site , which i find amazing considering everything that has happened , its not even a case of him being to scared to mix with apostates because he doesnt like jws and does not believe they have the truth , when i try to tell him anything , he tells me hes not interested, end of conversation .

  there is so much i want to discuss with him (regarding the child abuse thing that has affected our lives ) do any of you identify with this ?

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  Hi, I just joined this group and another ex JW support group in January . My fiance/common-in-law husband doesn't like me on it for some reason. It makes him feel insecure or something. I told him this is exJWs not JWs. He says why do you want to bother with them. I need support and to talk about how wrong the religion is and to receive updates as to what is going on with the doctrine etc. He has never been a JW and hates them. He says he saw so many so called JW's doing bad things to their families and he can tell me how wrong the religion is, he doesn't think I need others to tell me. I said I want and need it so I will be doing it regardless of his thoughts on it. He is one of those kind of people who deal with things by just forgetting about it if its not pleasant. I find a lot of men are like that. He thinks because it was unpleasant for me what I experienced with the JWs growing up and after that I would be better not talking about it and just forget it happened. I try to explain to him that it was something so deep inside of me and I didn't talk about it or try and think about it for years and it was causing me problems. Talking about it with others helps me see I was not crazy for leaving. Maybe its just a Male thing, bury your head in the sand type thing.

  My opinion from VelvetAnn