JESUS H. CHRIST when will you people start trying to deal in truth and fact rather than your liberal fantasy based in hating Bush and all things conservative.
When President Bush starts dealing straight so will I. He was elected President of ALL Americans not just the born agains, the corporations and the global democracy theorists.
The fact that 900,000 plus new jobs have been created since January, and that Kerry's cries of a jobless recovery have fallen on employed ears must really have you pissed off.
No actually, my eyes and ears have been busy watching all the President's men playing mop up.
The first premise is ENTIRELY wrong...these prisoners weren't even soldiers, they were criminals arrested after the war ended, for carrying weapons, defying coalition forces violently, etc. No one was asking them about WMD...low level nothings like this would have dick for information on WMD.
Oh, ok....so American CIA agents and paid Contractors were busy telling the American soldiers to "soften" up the criminals and deny them basic needs because they carried weapons and defied coalition forces? That makes no sense, they were being prepared for interrogation why? Because they were carrying weapons and fighting? Uhhhh....no I don't think so. The reports are that as these prisoners were brought in, the soldiers were told which ones to leave alone, which meant they got their meals and cigarettes and kept their clothes, and which should get the softening treatment to get them ready for interrogation.
IF these soldiers were directed to do this nonsense by Contractors or CIA that does NOT get the soldiers off the hook, they know the rules, we're taught the rules from our first day in the military...NOR are the Contractors or CIA off the hook...they are subject to military law because of where they're at, and subject to US and International law, both of which prohibit this.
A Senator was quoted as saying that the chain of command was broken. The Contractors were in charge of things in that prison far more than they should have been. This whole thing must have come from people who have great authority and an important agenda. It sounds like what's happened before in the Administration, the micro-managing of military affairs by civilian politicians. For sure the soldiers will get punished, as for anyone else, well, time will tell.
This media hype and the glee in the eyes of democrats pisses me off.
I am not a democrat. The problem is that President Bush has given me no reason to have confidence in his ability to do his job. That's all. The American people hired him to do a job. Many of us feel he has shown himself negligent in his duties, so much so that we would like to give the job to someone else. That's not so bad is it? I don't have a Republican or Democratic agenda or loyalty.
Here's the facts, long before the media was involved, heads had started to roll. People were relieved of command, investigations started, and charges filed against individuals LONG before the media got wind of this. All the hyping is doing is hurting the morale of our soldiers and endagnering the lives of those held hostage...and those taken hostage in the future. THIS WAS BEING TAKEN CARE OF long before media intervention...the news did NOT need to run this story unless the issue was not being fixed...which it obviously was.
Don't tell me, tell the Congress where both Republicans and Democrats are fuming over this whole thing. The media did not take the pictures, the media did not torture, the media did not order the torture. The military, CIA, Contrators and Government did. So if anyone is responsible for hurting the morale of the soldiers look to latter not the former.
If the media had not run the story do you think Rumsfeld would have appeared before the Armed Services Committee answering questions? Do you think the President would have been shown any of the pictures? We do not live in a military junta. This a democracy with 3 branches of government. The Pentagon had no right not to FULLY inform the Congress and the President of what exactly had gone on. Torture and rape are not supposed to be the ususal in American military prisons but maybe the American people are stupid and maybe, just maybe, this was considered no big deal because for the military, it is no big deal. I don't really believe that, but you know, I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
By the way, if this is how Iraqi's found "carrying weapons" are treated I wonder how Saddam's accommodatiions have been? Fortunately the International Red Cross has been trying to keep tabs on guy. I never thought I would ever say something like that but in the new Bush era anything is possible.
What I would like to know is this: Are politicians more loyal to their party or their country? If Kerry, Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Clinton, Powell, Kennedy etc., had to choose between loyalty to party or loyalty to country which one would they choose? Americans are dying for their country, in my fantasy world politicians would be willing to die for their country too.
Sabrina
