Greenpalmtreestillmine

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  dawn bible students

  by bavman in

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  has anyone heard of the dawn bible students?

  they r basically russellites that i was told died out yrs.

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  Did Russell ever publicly deny having said that?

  Sabrina
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  dawn bible students

  by bavman in

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  has anyone heard of the dawn bible students?

  they r basically russellites that i was told died out yrs.

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  RR,

  You're right that is not a tombstone since it does not rest upon Russell's grave. It does though stand very near to his grave and if not a tombstone I suppose it can be called a pyramid memorial to the man who believed measuring pyramid passages brought him closer to the mind of God.

  Sabrina
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  Religious Extremists Will be the End of Us!

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  the islamic religious extremists are destroying their people.

  just as the christian right in the u.s. is more interested in it's own needs and wants than that of the country itself.

  so too the islamic extremists want what they want regardless of the consequences to their country or their people.. ironically, osama the ultimate islamic extremist decided to attack the u.s. at just the moment when a christian right extremist was in power.. if christ's man gets elected maybe christ will decide to strike another country in the middle east and if osama survives maybe allah will decide to attack the u.s. again.

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  The Islamic religious extremists are destroying their people. Just as the Christian right in the U.S. is more interested in it's own needs and wants than that of the country itself. So too the Islamic extremists want what they want regardless of the consequences to their country or their people.

  Ironically, Osama the ultimate Islamic extremist decided to attack the U.S. at just the moment when a Christian right extremist was in power. No fictional book could have come up with a better recipe for disaster. Both men believe they are working for their God. "Allah" struck the U.S., "Christ" struck Afghanistan and Iraq.

  If Christ's man gets elected maybe Christ will decide to strike another country in the Middle East and if Osama survives maybe Allah will decide to attack the U.S. again.

  Gee, too bad these two gods can't get together and agree to get along.

  Are the Crusades destined to happen all over again?

  Sabrina
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  Torture for WMD Confirmed!

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  the new yorker said the interrogation plan was a highly classified "special access program," or sap, that gave advance approval to kill, capture or interrogate so-called high-value targets in the battle against terror.

  such secret methods were used extensively in afghanistan but more sparingly in iraq -- only in the search for former president saddam hussein and weapons of mass destruction.

  as the iraqi insurgency grew and more u.s. soldiers died, rumsfeld and defense undersecretary for intelligence stephen cambone expanded the scope to bring the interrogation tactics to abu ghraib, the article said.

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  Hi Cassiline,

  Good idea, I didn't think of that!

  Sabrina
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  Torture for WMD Confirmed!

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  the new yorker said the interrogation plan was a highly classified "special access program," or sap, that gave advance approval to kill, capture or interrogate so-called high-value targets in the battle against terror.

  such secret methods were used extensively in afghanistan but more sparingly in iraq -- only in the search for former president saddam hussein and weapons of mass destruction.

  as the iraqi insurgency grew and more u.s. soldiers died, rumsfeld and defense undersecretary for intelligence stephen cambone expanded the scope to bring the interrogation tactics to abu ghraib, the article said.

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  I can't get the imbeded page to work. The article is on the Reuters website.

  http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=JHXFQWT53NUAECRBAELCFFA?type=domesticNews&storyID=5154642

  Sabrina
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  Torture for WMD Confirmed!

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  the new yorker said the interrogation plan was a highly classified "special access program," or sap, that gave advance approval to kill, capture or interrogate so-called high-value targets in the battle against terror.

  such secret methods were used extensively in afghanistan but more sparingly in iraq -- only in the search for former president saddam hussein and weapons of mass destruction.

  as the iraqi insurgency grew and more u.s. soldiers died, rumsfeld and defense undersecretary for intelligence stephen cambone expanded the scope to bring the interrogation tactics to abu ghraib, the article said.

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  The New Yorker said the interrogation plan was a highly classified "special access program," or SAP, that gave advance approval to kill, capture or interrogate so-called high-value targets in the battle against terror.

  Such secret methods were used extensively in Afghanistan but more sparingly in Iraq -- only in the search for former President Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction. As the Iraqi insurgency grew and more U.S. soldiers died, Rumsfeld and Defense Undersecretary for Intelligence Stephen Cambone expanded the scope to bring the interrogation tactics to Abu Ghraib, the article said.

  The Bush Administration is reaping what it has sown. Rumsfeld micro-managed the whole war yet before Congress he acted like a guy who wasn't quite sure of what was happening when he was asked about the torturous treatment of prisoners. These guys give Christian fundamentalism the same name the Spanish Inquisition did. Unfortunately they are also tainting the name of the U.S. with their rabid beliefs and lawless ways.
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  To the pro-war america haters

  by IronGland in

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  cnn/time poll shows 51% against the war.

  why do you pro war people hate america?

  america: love it or leave it.

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  If the majority of Americans were for the war it's because the Bush Administration was illegally yelling fire when there was no fire. Thousands of people, both American and Iraqi, were trampled on the way to Bush's yet to be found exit door.

  President Bush is a political dead duck and his recent downward spiraling approval ratings are raining down like buckshot all around him.

  Sabrina
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  Warning to Kerry supporters (graphic)

  by SixofNine in

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  just in case you were thinking about voting kerry, a reminder: .

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  Ahh...yes the great divide!
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  Warning to Kerry supporters (graphic)

  by SixofNine in

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  just in case you were thinking about voting kerry, a reminder: .

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  I would laugh if it wasn't so true!

  These four people have aged America. Osama attacked our country, these four guys have attacked our very essence.

  They consider themselves outside of any boundary whether national or international. They are in the wrong century. They belong in the 15th century when kings and their henchmen ran supreme, when the law was only a made up document to be changed at will when the king and his henchmen felt like it.

  Sabrina
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  Torture to find WMD?

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  do you think those iraqi's were tortured to find wmd?.

  the rank and file soldier was following the orders of the hired interrogation contractors (who are outside of military law) to soften up the prisoners.

  what were they looking for this past year?

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  Hi Yeru, good to see you.

  Moral clarity means that something is right or wrong regardless of what the polls say.

  Well, I am very glad to hear President Bush does not listen to polls.

  Making decisions based on your ethical sense instead of what you think will be popular

  I agree, that is very important, especially for politicians.

  For instance, The Prescription Drug Benefit, inspite of many conservatives, myself included, disagreeing with having a PDB, Bush pushed for it anyhow.

  I'm glad to hear he is his own man.

  Clear?

  Absolutely, President Bush does not listen to polls or to his own constituency when his conscience tells him he should not. But that was never in question. The real question is: How much is Bush guided by his belief that God wanted him to be President and therefore is guiding him?

  In other words, where does his "moral clarity" stem from? Over and over again, it appears it stems from his religious beliefs.

  Sabrina