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  society cutting costs?!

  by greven in

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  i was wondering if you noticed the society cutting costs.. for example : the books are now printed on cheaper paper and have a soft cover.

  also subscriptions are no longer mailed by post but will be brought to you by publishers (cutting cost and upping field service!

  to flies in one!).

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  greven

  hi everyone,

  I was wondering if you noticed the society cutting costs.
  for example : the books are now printed on cheaper paper and have a soft cover. also subscriptions are no longer mailed by post but will be brought to you by publishers (cutting cost and upping field service! to flies in one!). I was wondering what this sudden move is about, are they in trouble? they also whine more about donations now...

  greven.

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  JW VS Apostate code words

  by Imbue in

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  every social group develops their own code words to identify themselves with that group.this is part of the study of semiotics.

  jws have many code words.then there are semiotics for apostates.

  i'll start the lists.

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  spiritual pornography.
  gangrene.
  apostate propaganda.
  weak in the truth.
  "worldly wisdom" (science not in line with the society).
  evidence or proof (scientific quote out of context).
  'subborn shoulder'
  independant thinking (a bad thing!!!)
  going beyond the truth or ahead of jehovah.

  etc etc etc

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  Diary of an Armageddon Survivor

  by Adonai438 in

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  i had this forwarded to me and wasn't sure if it came from here originally or not-- but i found it sadly, funny.

  thought you might be able to relate and get a good laugh .

  diary of an armageddon survivor.

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  greven

  wickedly fun!!!

  lifein the org is hell already, what will it be when they have TOTAL control??? yuk!

  greven

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  Watchtower Society visits Apostate Website!

  by Rado Vleugel in

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  hello friends,.

  i thought this might interst you:.

  the wts is a regular visitor of watchtower information service, in the definition of the watchtower, an apostate website (screenshots of site statistics that proof the visits of the wts are shown in the article)!.

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  greven

  thanx for the info rada!

  it is only logic that the WTBS check apostate sites for several reasons. first is to know the "enemy". it allows them to see scandals emerge and prepare a response right away before to much damage is done. usually they put things in talks to prevent people from asking the wrong questions. secondly they probably feel it is just research.
  they have access to alot of material that would be a BIG no-no to the rank and file witness. with the coming and rise of internet people can check quotes, information etc etc in the comfort of ones own home.
  free access would be devastating. before the internet how could you meet apostates and have access to this amount of evidence against them? besides, even if they can scare the witnesses from using the net they will have a harder time getting new reqruits: almost everybody checks the internet when confronted with this ORG.
  eventually they will wear down. period. unless they will come out in the open admit mistakes and become more mainsteam what is axactly what is happening right now.
  freedom of speech, freedom of press, information age; three enemies of any organisation that relies on propaganda.

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  My new illustrations for those who have asked

  by seven006 in

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  here are a few 3d illustrations that i have recently finished, a few of you have asked to see some of my new work so i posted it here, i hope these images aren't too big.

  i have just finished a quick and dirty html site to show a little bit more work, here is the link.. http://sumagroup.com/maloneart/.

  i hope this works!.

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  pretty darn cool!!!

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  I feel so sick, I think I am gonna die............

  by butalbee in

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  i feel achy all over, like i've been runned over by a steam roller, my head pounds, like someone just keeps ringing a god damn bell in my ear, i'm shivering, freezing, but i got the heat turned way up, my temp is 102.5 and i think i am gonna die.. i hate being sick.

  i know i got the flu.

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  greven

  hey butalbee!

  get better soon. wouldn`t be the same without you down here!!!

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  Oh the Horror!!

  by OUTLAW in

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  hey guys,dam i`ve picked up a few computer virus`s.my norton system cleaned them up,but i`ve lost my wallpaper!

  "naked women riding flying dragons.

  "now thats a mans wallpaper(lol)!

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  greven

  maybe the superviser from this board can track these buggers.
  if you do find out who it is you can sue them!
  greven.

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  how many JW on this site

  by happy man in

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  the name of the site, jehovas vittness.com?.

  well sure we must have permission to say what we fell here, cant understan that ex say that this is ther site,.

  havent they red the heading.

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  greven

  hey there!

  yes I am still one too but on my way out. I have been lurking here for a long time. my education and -hell yes- my common sense told me that if you really want to study something like evolution theory, a religion or anything else it is no good to look only at one side of the matter. It can never hurt to see what others think. both parties can learn from eachother. be sure to check everything any party says and most of all : are not afraid to have your own opinion.
  as one of my professors said once:
  "reprove criticism when possible, embrace it where needed."

  welcome by the way!
  greven

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  newbie here!

  by greven in

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  hi everyboby!!.

  i am a newbie in signing on for this board, however i have been surfing here quite often.

  i really like this place so i decided to sign-up.

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  greven

  hello everybody!

  sjeeezz, I never expected this! ibid just is ditto. hmm feel a bit silly now. I had good fun reading the replies. some were...well NUTS.
  about my screen name, Greven: its does not refer to some church burning or something like that. in fact it is a fantasy character from a very "worldly" collectable card game "Magic the Gathering". this character intriged me for he does evil, but not because he is, but because he is coerced into doing so by some leader that controles him by mindcontrol techniques and torture. sort of how I felt for bringing evil door to door while being under controle of the org.
  and my e-mail is just what hotmail did to necromancer. like it was a first and last name. weird.
  oh and guys I have updated my profile so it now contains a bit of who I am.

  you guys are really really NUTS! but don`t bother to change.

  greven

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  newbie here!

  by greven in

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  hi everyboby!!.

  i am a newbie in signing on for this board, however i have been surfing here quite often.

  i really like this place so i decided to sign-up.

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  greven

  hi everyboby!!
  I am a newbie in signing on for this board, however I have been surfing here quite often. I really like this place so I decided to sign-up. I will update my personal story in my profile shortly. anyway a smaal question I have now: on this board and sometimes the WTS itself refers to a scource as Ibid. does anyone know which publication this is?
  thanx,
  greven

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-