Posts by abbagail

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MISSING POSTS@Silent Lambs! WHY?

by abbagail in

hi everyone: i just made my daily visit to the silent lambs guestbook, and it appears all posts from june 14,15,16,17 (and maybe some from june 18) have disappeared.

i have no knowledge whatsoever of how websites work, but if any of you do, would you please educate the rest of us?.

according to some recent posts, bill bowen and/or the webmaster have been notified of the missing posts, but there is yet any sort of response posted to the guestbook from bill and/or the webmaster as to how/why this occurred.

abbagail

Thanks again, Simon, for the extra clarification and terminology/description of how websites work. I like getting educated in small-dosages. That way my brain can comprehend a little at a time. ;)

I feel bad for the burden Bill must be carrying. He's got his hands full, I'm sure, and the website is just one small part of the entire "silent lambs crusade." I'm sure when he has time, he will send around an email and/or a post to the Guestbook letting everybody know what happened.

One last question: Someone wrote on the Guestbook that we should all re-post our messages from the past few days... Would your educated-opinion think that's a good idea, or should we wait to see if the hosting company will repost from their backup copies? (if they have them, that is) and/or wait until we hear from Bill? I would hate to put a bunch of duplicate stuff on there if eventually the posts will be reposted by the webmaster, etc.

Thanks for your time on this!
GRITS

Edited by - GRITS on 19 June 2002 10:17:28

PS: Kent at Watchtowerobserver says that Bill Bowen is on vacation. So he probably is not even aware about the glitch at the SL website.

Edited by - GRITS on 19 June 2002 11:14:59

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MISSING POSTS@Silent Lambs! WHY?

by abbagail in

hi everyone: i just made my daily visit to the silent lambs guestbook, and it appears all posts from june 14,15,16,17 (and maybe some from june 18) have disappeared.

i have no knowledge whatsoever of how websites work, but if any of you do, would you please educate the rest of us?.

according to some recent posts, bill bowen and/or the webmaster have been notified of the missing posts, but there is yet any sort of response posted to the guestbook from bill and/or the webmaster as to how/why this occurred.

abbagail

Hi Simon! Thanks very much for your quick response & expertise/opinions on this.

So it IS possible all the posts were lost.... That would be tooooo bad.

Your comment re: WT "supporters" might having the wherewithal to do such a thing -- interesting... (and would be pretty sad indeed).

Re: your answer to my #4 question: Yes, I can imagine running a website is like a full-time job. Not really understanding how it works, I thought another company entirely "ran the website" and that Bill (possibly) did not have to do the website work. (??? but I have no idea, really).

By "hosting" do you mean that Bill "does" run the website himself and do whatever work is required in running a website; and this other company (Communication Services Company) just "hosts" it? (Not sure what that means, but I don't expect a Webmaster Education right here and now). ;)

I wish there was something I could do. I have the time (am home all the time), but I sure don't know a hill-o-beans about running/overseeing/whatever a website.

Thanks again for the reply!

GRITS

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MISSING POSTS@Silent Lambs! WHY?

by abbagail in

hi everyone: i just made my daily visit to the silent lambs guestbook, and it appears all posts from june 14,15,16,17 (and maybe some from june 18) have disappeared.

i have no knowledge whatsoever of how websites work, but if any of you do, would you please educate the rest of us?.

according to some recent posts, bill bowen and/or the webmaster have been notified of the missing posts, but there is yet any sort of response posted to the guestbook from bill and/or the webmaster as to how/why this occurred.

abbagail

Hi LadyLee: Thanks for the input. I'm assuming web companies have backups of all the posts, and can re-post them? Hope so.

And that makes sense about hacking: If someone wanted to really mess things up, there are lots of other posts on there I'd think they would have erased.

All of the posts re: the Newsweek article were wiped out. Bummer.

GRITS

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MISSING POSTS@Silent Lambs! WHY?

by abbagail in

hi everyone: i just made my daily visit to the silent lambs guestbook, and it appears all posts from june 14,15,16,17 (and maybe some from june 18) have disappeared.

i have no knowledge whatsoever of how websites work, but if any of you do, would you please educate the rest of us?.

according to some recent posts, bill bowen and/or the webmaster have been notified of the missing posts, but there is yet any sort of response posted to the guestbook from bill and/or the webmaster as to how/why this occurred.

abbagail

Hi Everyone: I just made my daily visit to the Silent Lambs Guestbook, and it appears ALL posts from June 14,15,16,17 (and maybe some from June 18) have Disappeared. I have no knowledge whatsoever of HOW websites work, but if any of you do, would you please educate the rest of us?

According to some recent posts, Bill Bowen and/or the webmaster HAVE been notified of the missing posts, but there is yet any sort of response posted to the Guestbook from Bill and/or the webmaster as to how/why this occurred. Some of the posters there are feeling a bit paranoid about it, and I personally am dying of curiosity...

The questions I would have about it are below, if anyone has experience in running a website (like Simon, etc.):

1. Was it merely a technical failure in the website that would cause the posts to disappear?
2. Are there backup copies of all posts somewhere, so that they may be re-posted by the webmaster? (I certainly hope so).
3. Is it really possible that outsiders can somehow "hack into" the Silent Lambs website and "purposely" remove posts without the webmaster's knowledge?
4. Due to the "paranoia" of some, and the curiosity of myself, is it possible the Watchtower Society could somehow "hack into" the site and remove posts?

The company that runs the website (as found in the EMAIL section of Silent Lambs) is: "Site maintained by Communication Services Company. If you find a link broken or a page not working e mail [email protected]"

Thanks for any insight from you "smarter people" out there! ;)

GRITS

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Illuminati?!

by lv4fer in

maybe someone already talked about this, i'm sorry i missed it.

do you think wt involved?

what proof?

abbagail

There was lots of very interesting discussion about the WT/Illuminati connection on the Channel C Forum in the not-too-distant-past. Look for threads entitled " Philosophic Parent of the Watchtower Society" and "Russell's Foreknowledge of WWI." The homepage link is: < http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi>;

I first heard of this Illuminati thing in the early '80s from a fellow patient of a JW chiropractor. This sis/pioneer said she had heard the tapes the doc had about the Illuminati. I never got to hear the tapes, but never forgot the word and always wondered about it/how to spell it, etc. Then lo & behold, I finally hear about it again 20+ years later via internet. Fascinating info, even if merely speculation.

GRITS

Edited by - GRITS on 18 June 2002 12:54:14

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Scanned Copy of Newsweek Article on JW Child Abuse

by hawkaw in

please note the article is on "right side" with a "tan coloured background".

this is page 81 of the june 24, 2002 edition (on sale now - as of june 17, 2002).

it's a small article but .....!!!!!

abbagail

Never mind on the blood article in Newsweek. I see you guys are way ahead of me, and already have it posted in the BLOOD section of this forum! Good going.

GRITS

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Scanned Copy of Newsweek Article on JW Child Abuse

by hawkaw in

please note the article is on "right side" with a "tan coloured background".

this is page 81 of the june 24, 2002 edition (on sale now - as of june 17, 2002).

it's a small article but .....!!!!!

abbagail

Hi again Hawk... OK. Even tho it's raining cats and dogs down here in the Sunshine State, I'll run right out and get a copy! ;)

All jokin' aside, I'll be out 'n about tomorrow and will pick one up. Walgreen's has a good newsstand section, so they should have it. I already posted a link to this thread at Silent Lambs so visitors there can come see the printed version, too.

Blondie mentioned that there was a blood article in the same mag. Just so happens that article just came thru another email group, so I'll post it under News/Events. I didn't even read it yet.

I kinda feel sorry for JR... you gotta figure he's just brainwashed to say whatever he's "supposed" to say... he can't possibly really believe what he says... maybe he's confused and scared, like lots of the JWs still on the inside. (Now everybody can throw tomatos at me for being a softie). :-/

GRITS

PS: Every single time I post a message, I always check the box that says I have subscribed to this thread so I will get email when anyone posts more to it. I've been doing this all along, but I have YET to get notification of new posts via email. I'll have to find the Newbie section -- there's gotta be one -- explaining how to play this game correctly! ;)

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BAD LITTLE JW GIRLS 2

by crawdad2 in

jw girl://////// crying....sobbig.........pleading........... but no one is there when he makes me do it to him!!!!!.........

how can i have a "witness"??????????

elder://///// the bible say's you must have" 2 witnesses"............lets look up the 'scriptures together', ok?

abbagail

That is sickening to the nnnnnth degree, and probably not far from "real conversations" in the back room. It makes my guts hurt. Can you imagine having to suppress the ANGER a young girl would feel at being put thru anything like that? Jehovah God please help us all! Amen.

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Scanned Copy of Newsweek Article on JW Child Abuse

by hawkaw in

please note the article is on "right side" with a "tan coloured background".

this is page 81 of the june 24, 2002 edition (on sale now - as of june 17, 2002).

it's a small article but .....!!!!!

abbagail

Dungbeetle wrote:

J.R.Brown is out the door (unfortunately, since he did us more good than he did his 'own' side) and some other person is being disengenuous in his place.

Who shot JR?

;)

Seriously, has JR Brown been "fired" from his PR job at the WTS?

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Scanned Copy of Newsweek Article on JW Child Abuse

by hawkaw in

please note the article is on "right side" with a "tan coloured background".

this is page 81 of the june 24, 2002 edition (on sale now - as of june 17, 2002).

it's a small article but .....!!!!!

abbagail

Thanks for that scanned copy, hawk. I was hoping to actually get to see it in print!

What I especially liked and what jumped out at me, was the "torn piece of paper" superimposed on the Catholic side of the page, which said something like: "---even ONE incident -- past, present, future -- and the priest is forever REMOVED from the MINISTRY...." -- and then over in the JW article, JR Brown says if a JW is accused, he's still a good ole boy and can go door to door (i.e., PUBLIC MINISTRY).

Wonder if any worldlies or current JWs will catch that comparison?

Raised as a Catholic (yuk) turned JW, turned Bewildered, I never thought I'd see the day when the Catholic Church actually came out lookin' better than the JWs.