Posts by abbagail

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WT 8 26 02 Study Article--Review

by blondie in

wt 8/25/2002 .

add godly devotion to your endurance 2 peter 1:5,6. in days gone by, the wt study article scriptures were quoted in entirety sometimes taking a separate paragraph.

nowadays, there are mostly snippets, only the part they want to emphasize), citations (for the publisher to look uphahathey are lucky the publisher reads the article), and occasionally when it is unavoidable, a complete scripture is quoted.

abbagail

Blondie, once again you out-did yourself! This makes Watchtower study especially enjoyable with your inserted commentaries!

I especially got a big laugh out of your comments here:

3 pictures Beware of threats to your godly devotion
1. White hands caressing a large pile of cash (GB?)
2. Cigarettes and booze (Bethelites are some of the biggest boozers I have ever met)
3. A woman hiding in her house (isolating oneself)(probably sees theelders coming to 'encourage' her.)

And what a revelation to learn the WT does indeed believe in their own version of the Trinity! LOL!

Thanks!

Grits

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Anyone ever rub elbows with a Celebrity?

by RubyTuesday in

when i was in the sixth grade in roswell n.m. i met this girl whos father had recently died.my father had also passed away recently.we were both very shy and haveing the lose of our fathers in common we stuck together that year.we never did anything outside of school however, not sure why,she never invited me over and now i think it was because of her horrible home life.but we ate lunch together everyday and chated in a class we shared.i never saw her again until..... when i was in my 20's my cousins wife told me that my friend demetria guynes was....... drum roll..plz.

demi moore.

please share simular stories.

abbagail

Met Popeye as a little kid when we got to be on the local TV station's Popeye Show! LOL!

Pre-Graduation: As a high schooler we had to go watch Gerald Ford give a speech in the town square in downtown Jax. Their skin always looks so different in person. I guess it's the makeup or something? -- Met Bobby Goldsboro and his Go-Go Dancers (with the white thigh high boots) when they were playing in town and my Dad ran the searchlights to advertise the event. LOL! I almost forgot about that one!

1970, at the grand opening of Disney World, we stood in line next to Rock Hudson. His face looked like plastic (again, too much makeup?). Another person nearby asked for his autograph and he nastily refused. I was awakened to the snobbery of celebs after that! What a creep!

1975-1980 living in Aspen, CO: Worked for the attorney, Mike McGrath, who represented Claudette (Claudine?) Williams (Andy Williams' wife) when she was arrested for shooting her ski-patrol lover in the stomach, Spider Savich (sp?), and they had to come into the office numerous times. Andy Williams was very tan, and very short, much shorter than he looked on TV.

Same era, while working a waitressing job at Cooper Street Pier, had to wait on Michael Douglas who was there with two young blond chicks (his daughters? They looked tooo young to be with him as anything else). He did not look near as good in person as he did on TV, he still had that "reddish" but tan face. -- Others seen around town, at the bars, in the bank, in the grocery store, etc.: Jack Nicholson (Jerome Bar, and he looked just as weird as he does in the movies), Sidney Poitier (sp?) (Aspen Chalet Restaurant), Steve Martin (Bank of Aspen), John Denver everywhere (of course), Lucille Ball (skiing at Snowmass, she lived there), Jill St. John grocery shopping. After awhile, you stopped noticing as the celebs were becoming more numerous as the word got out that Aspen was "the cool place," and too much celebdom was taking over, which all of the local-yocals r-e-a-l-l-y hated.

Never got to rub shoulders with him, thankfully, but the most famous person to pass thru town during those years was Ted Bundy who was arrested and jailed at the Pitkin County Jail. Then he escaped in hand and leg chains, by jumping through the 2nd story window of the courthouse when they put him in a room waiting for a hearing or whatever. Was that ever the "talk of the town!" (I was working at the local newspaper at that time). He was recaptured and jailed, this time in a more "secure" site at the Glenwood Springs Jail, but he escaped AGAIN through the A/C ducts. He was gone for good that time until he ended up in Florida (I thought he was following me! since I moved back here during that same time frame to immerse myself in the Kingdumb Hall), and he killed that little 10-year-old girl in Lake City, FL.

Life has been quiet ever since, KH years and afterward. No further celeb sightings!

Everyone's stories were Very interesting though! Amazing how frequently shoulder- rubbing occurs in everyday life.

Grits

Edited by - Grits on 26 August 2002 5:24:36

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH!!

by sleepy in

jw
friends

sorry a total sense of shock just went through my body, i was a jehovahs witness for 27 years.what a plank.

abbagail

Simon, well that explains it then! Straight from the womb to the WT-tomb!

Fortunately, all those in the WT-tombs will "hear the aposto voice" and come out!

Grits

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I'm starting to worry......

by DJ in

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friends

i've always known that i am a bit obsessive, but lately i've been starting to worry about it.

when i was taught jw stuff, i really got into it.

i know that most women are supposed to be able to think and do a million things at once.

abbagail

DJ:

Brouhaha -- sounds like the name of a German beer. [:-)]

I wasn't even sure I had spelled it correctly, as I was too lazy to look it up. I did just now to make sure, and yes, correct spelling. Even funnier is the definition, which well describes some of the threads at this forum: "An uproar; a hubbub. A condition of intense public interest or excitement, sensation, stir." -- LOL!

Yes, sounds like a great hubbie you got there. Maybe it's time to go and really get on his nerves! (the "fun" nerves, that is!)

Did I hear pizza? Mmmmm, pizza would be great right about now.

I keep waiting for something to happen to force me to switch course for awhile. I thought I would be buying a bunch of the aposto books and start reading hard-copy for a change. Haven't done it yet.

Again, seriously, I agree with you: "This is not good." Had been somewhat fretting about that myself before I ever saw your original post. Maybe we should all practice 'Shunning Each Other" and see if that will work as a "withdrawal" tactic? (Watch out for the DT's!)

Have a GREAT day AWAY from this place tomorrow!

Grits

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Sending/taking lambs to the March

by Lady Lee in

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in bill's initial post about getting ready for the march he mentioned that if anyone could not go but wanted to send a lamb for the march to find someone who was going and was willing to take them to leave in front of bethel .

i have three small lambs.

one for my sister (who has left the jws but suffers greatly due to the abuse) .

abbagail

LadyLee, thanks. I'll post the link to this thread at Silent Lambs guestbook and mention that we have a volunteer (Thanks Larry!) for getting the lambs to the March.

Grits

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH!!

by sleepy in

jw
friends

sorry a total sense of shock just went through my body, i was a jehovahs witness for 27 years.what a plank.

abbagail

Funny thread! Feel free to let out a YELP anytime the need arises!

Simon, you don't look old enough in that picture to have been in 30+ years! You must have joined as a wee toddler! ;-)

I was fully idoctrinated, so much so that after putting in 11 years faithfully and officially, I spent the next 12 (DF'd) years sweating about it, worrying about it, feeling guilty about it, waiting for the big "A" to drop any day and have the angel of death visit my front door. Does THAT count? If so, that totals 23 years chained to the Org in one way or another. Liberated only very recently (mentally), somewhere between Silent Lambs discovery last fall and Dateline showing this May.

Grits

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Pure Language ROFL!

by outcast in

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looks like pure language network is going to go down soon.. poor robots, where can they find any information now?.

http://www.purelanguage.net/forums/showthread.php?s=be1e973a8d31d72c6006eeda6e523497&threadid=3751.

abbagail

YB Aspen sounds like a REBEL to me!

And I'd like to know more about YB Aspen. Aspen is where I learned the truth (lived there '75-'80) and began studying, then moved back to the south and got baptized in the same year (back in the "old days").

Thanks for the info, outcast. Let us know when the site closes shop!

Grits

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES CAN'T GO TO THE RACES!

by minimus in

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the wt.

of august 15, 2002 asks:"the violent and deadly gladatorial events of the roman empire have been compared to what modern spectator sports?

a recent exibit in the colosseum in rome, italy, suggested modern parallels by including video clips of bullfighting, professional boxing,auto and motorcycle races, and spectator fights at other modern sports events.early christians took to heart that jehovah does not love violence or violent ones,and neither should christians today.

abbagail

If Paul Newman or Tom Cruse wanted to become JWs, wonder what the WTS would say about their NASCAR activities?

Gatherings to watch football at the friends' homes was well known in my old cong, but I was never invited (didn't matter to me, I hate football). I used to play tennis with a black sister, and it was her gang of friends, married couples, etc. that had these football socials at their homes.

Back when I was a newbie-Bible-study, the couple I studied with and other JWs took me with them to the movies to see Rocky. I was shocked out of my gourd when right in the middle of one of the fight scenes, this brother who was an elder, jumped up in the theater and was hollering his head off out of uncontrollable excitement for Rocky! I was aghast.

Years later another older brother, who I was friends with his family, during the Kentucky Derby on TV, well, this old guy was down on his hands and knees pounding on the carpet and hollering his head off for his chosen horse to win the race. Even though this brother was always known as "spiritually weak," I was still shocked out of my gourd when I saw him freaking out like this over a dumb horse race! I swear his eyeballs were bulging from too much adrenaline. I thought the old dude was going to have a heart attack right there on his hands and knees on the floor in front of the TV.

You can take the boy out of the racetrack (and stick him in a K.Hall), but evidently you can't really take the love of racing (or football, boxing, etc.) out of the boy.

Huh???? What was that???
("You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy").

Grits

Edited for typos!

Edited by - Grits on 26 August 2002 3:8:0

Edited by - Grits on 26 August 2002 3:10:28

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I'm starting to worry......

by DJ in

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friends

i've always known that i am a bit obsessive, but lately i've been starting to worry about it.

when i was taught jw stuff, i really got into it.

i know that most women are supposed to be able to think and do a million things at once.

abbagail

ROFLOL! to Onacruse! You said it very well, and with humor! Teehee! I wonder, though, HOW can you be online and Cooking at the same time??? Do you have a computer in the kitchen? I'm deeply impressed, to say the least! :-)

Same to you, DJ! Die laughing at your latest post: can't even remember your husband's name! your boy needs a bath! the only thing that kept you off the net was a thunderstorm and power-outage! (I can relate to that being in the lightning capital of the world). If you gain 50 lbs, I will have smoked myself into the Emphysema Ward. (Ditto on the addictions comment). Think I'd rather be chubby, but I know what you mean, that if this doesn't lighten up soon, what will become of my bare cupboards and car needing an oil change, etc. etc. Well, I got the mail last night at least, and a pretty good snooze earlier.

As far as newbies, YES YES YES! They SHOULD be welcomed WARMLY and not attacked, criticized, etc. Last Fall (same time I found SIlent Lambs), I visited here, and was so horrified at some poor innocent girl who had posted her innocent thoughts, and the backlash she got just freaked me out. I went away from here and did not come back until after Dateline when I finally signed up to post. I did spend a short while at Kent's forum, and I had nothing against it, except it was so much slower than here, and I was getting "lonely" so I came back over here and there were like zillions of posts and things to read, 24/7 (like SYN said above). And I've been here ever since. Just the other day, a new young lady posted, and it was her first post I think, and she asked a sincere Q about oral sex. And she got blasted as being a fake, etc. etc. Again I was shocked. She had to defend herself and explain why she asked. Fortunately, the person apologized finally who had jumped all over her, but still.... Why does it have to be that way??? I have never done an official introduction for myself either. I'm not the kind of person who walks into a room of crowded people and goes around saying, "Hello! I'm here now, and here's my story! Everybody listen up!!!!!" I just started posting here and there on things that really touched me, and more and more over time I am letting the "true me" be known via my comments.

I missed the recent brouhaha re: some people leaving. I tried to catch up on the threads but there were more than I could cover. Were there certain "old timers" who tended to pounce on the newbies more than others?

Thanks everyone for all of the "True Confessions" comments!

Last one to get to bed tonight is a rotten egg!

First one up in the morning and back online wins the golden goose!

Grits

Edited to correct spelling errors!

Edited by - Grits on 25 August 2002 23:8:13

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Are You Influenced By Looks?

by jack2 in

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friends

on friday night i watched a report by abc tv's john stossel (in the normal 20/20 time slot) that dealt with how humans are influenced by looks.

it was a re-broadcast, and even though this was the second time i've seen it it was still fascinating.

to demonstrate whether we are influenced by appearance, several scenarios were set up, involving people considered attractive and those considered more 'plain'.

abbagail

Sorry about the long post above where the spacing between paragraphs is not showing up! I do not know why this keeps happening! (I'm going to double space in this one!)

I remembered what else I liked about Mary's comment (had to go back and look):

While I tend to havea good sense of humour and can talk to just about anyone, I'm not good at flirting with men or "playing the game", which is yet another reason why I've never married. Being attractive is sort of like winning the lottery: if you know how to handle it in the right way, you've got it made......if you don't know how to use it to your advantage, you end up screwing yourself.

WOW! What an excellent right-on description. That brought back lots of memories as well. So true what you say there Mary. Playing the Game I always hated and actually never even tried. I had a best friend for years when we were younger, living out West together. She told me how when we were in junior high school, she was always so jealous of me. I was completely shocked, because this girl was extremely self-confident, and had guys bowing down at her feet. She had her own businesses and made gobs of money, and eventually married a rich guy. They have homes in several ski resorts, etc. She always could get the guys, yet I was "supposed" to be the better looking of the two of us. She definitely knew how to "flirt" and "play the game." And it definitely worked for her! Even though I would watch and try to learn from her, it was never the "real me" nor in my heart to "play the game," as I honestly felt I really did not understand HOW to do it, and it seemed "phoney" to me when I tried to do so.

Ditto on the ADD as well!

Grits