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  Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.

  through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.

  fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.

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  jookbeard

  John Merriman, Chris and Norma Sanchez
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  Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.

  through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.

  fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.

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  Duane Magnani, Leonard and Marjorie Crietein , David A Reed, Ed Decker,Lori MacGregor ( I wonder if she is still with us) made some very instrumental contributions from the late 1970's, SBL I'm surprised that you've noticed the amount of WT dissenters through the years considering you view them and the biggest and fastest growing group on the planet
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  2015 Jehovah's Witnesses Annual Meeting Lett warning about apostates CLIP

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4z2-sf4ky.

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  I cant bear to listen for one single second of the bile that spews from that dipshits mouth
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  If JWs Were More Tolerant Would It Help Their Money Woes?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they don't want you bettering yourself.

  they hate college education.they applaud you if you quit full time secular work and instead, "pioneer".

  they cry that they have money problems.

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  jookbeard

  agree with the OP, but since when have they done anything in their entire history that showed common sense and logic? they only thing I can really think of is the reduction in meetings and pioneer hours and only because it was forced on them, they stay obsessed by their "persecution complex" and seem to love doing so.
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  Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

  by Dunedain in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there were always all types of speakers in the org.

  myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

  other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

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  we had another brother who seemed to be numerically dyslexic is there is such an affliction , he was an MS and for some strange reason was often given the role to give the announcements in the SM, first the KH accounts , if there was say £500 in the bank he's say there was £5000, the 144.000 was often called the 14,000, and if he had to reel off figures on the world wide report of a country having 6000 pubs he's say they had 60,000 pubs I think the UK had 400.000 pubs at one stage, I think the BoE's used to give him the announcements on purpose
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  Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

  they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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  whats happening to the flat ? is being sold as well?
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  Lets start a "Go Fund Me" for those special pioneers being kicked to the curb by the GB,.

  by notjustyet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  lots of great potential to help those sp that are being sent off without any financial help from the wtbts.

  i think that it would be a great way to get some exposure on this topic and how the wtbts thats those that dedicated their lives to the wtbts only to be sent packing at a late age.

  then someone can take the funds to one sp couple, possibly, and give it to them in honor of the apostates that know what is really happening.

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  no chance in hell I'd give to these idiots, it would probably go to the court case pay outs of child sexual abuse.
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  Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

  by Dunedain in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there were always all types of speakers in the org.

  myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

  other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

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  jookbeard

  for a while there was a lot of inter congregational football matches being played across the circuit and the county they even spread across most parts of the country at times and were taken very seriously, it got to the stage the results of the matches started to be announced in the Service Meeting in a cong of a friend of mine , naturally a new CO put a stop to this, imagine the speaker making these announcements " brothers and sisters the recent inter congregational football results ;

  Farnham 3 Camberley 1

  Wimbledon 5 Woking 2

  Guildford 4 Petersfield 2

  Bracknell 6 Maidenhead 3

  and thats all the football results tonight brothers , now for the next item on the service meeting.
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  Some Recent U.K. Information ...

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... just received!

  london bethel: last year a couple in their fifties were laid off from bethel and made special pioneers.

  in january they will be demoted to regular pioneers.

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  jookbeard

  wondering what the stats are for the rest of Europe, probably worse, SBF calls them the biggest and fastest growing religious group on the planet
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  welcome back SBF, during the time you was gone was you watching their growth as the fastest religious group in the world?