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  Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. scandals

  recent developments make me think they might be.

  the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.

  one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.

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  I've always wanted to read Trumpet of Prophecy
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  Have we become what we despise so much?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

  upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

  again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

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  "the Bible stands up to close scrutiny" LOL

  what like the global flood?

  the feeding of the 5000?

  a man walking on water?

  a resurrection of Lazarus?

  Jonah being swallowed by a giant fish?

  the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah?

  the original sin?

  the creative days?

  ah yes all stand up perfectly to any sort of scrutiny
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  Demonic art in the watchtower?

  by Lost and adrift in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anybody remember a rumour or maybe it was a truth?

  ?...something about hidden pictures or symbols in the artwork of the watchtower.

  was it one of those urban legends?

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  I had the book many years ago, by someone called Derek Barefoot
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  Have we become what we despise so much?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

  upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

  again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

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  speak for yourself, I like to think I've become the very opposite of what we allegedly despise and your blatant generalization is both judgemental and ill founded, I bet you don not know one single person on this forum personally, perhaps do some more searching. I've never felt hatred or feel I despise the religion of my birth, I feel far more empathy to the victims of the cult, bear in mind I've been yelled at, told I'm possessed, had my mental health questioned, shunned and suffered a marriage break up,excluded from attending my own mothers funeral, yet I still speak to them politely and courteously, quite and achievement I'd say.
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  Another heavy load :Literature Cart Witnessing

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses standing on a street corner publicly promoting the propaganda of the governing body!another ridiculous form of "forced loyalty" to jehovah.

  "dirty work" that the wtbts make witnesses go through.preaching work '' lite''.putting more heavy loads on members while the ''faithful and discreet slave'' preach from warm studios without the humiliation.

  what an embarrassment!.

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  picked up a Bible Teach Book this morning from the local cart, dumped immediately
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  Reasons for NOT Returning

  by Saved_JW in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i left the watchtower in the winter of 2008. my first year out was by far the most difficult.

  i had every intention of returning to the watchtower for the very purpose of being able to speak with my friends and family.

  i had already concluded that the teachings were not the "truth" [after reading crisis of conscience] so coming back was more emotional then anything.

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  cant disagree with any of that, good points
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  How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

  by Mark Zyche in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

  what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

  since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

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  Mark; its not a game with rules here, I have nothing to hide, been out many years and seen still further false prophecies from the WTS, over lapping generation, the change of 1935, blood fractions, and there will be still more to come, dont you see a pattern?
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  How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

  by Mark Zyche in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

  what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

  since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

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  Mark, go sit down, pour yourself a nice cup of your favourite hot drink, take a few long deep breaths, repeat a few times , clear your head and settle back down here, we're not that bad
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  How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

  by Mark Zyche in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

  what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

  since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

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  Mark dont get your mums underwear you are wearing all twisted, a little secret for you and I'll whisper it " there are no true prophets"
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  How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

  by Mark Zyche in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

  what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

  since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

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  jookbeard

  Mark; your own magazines and literature of the last 130 odd years has clearly defined the meaning of "false prophet" they are dissected , your claim of being "the channel, Gods mouthpiece on Earth, the faithful and discreet slave etc" is quite strong language, the problem is the "channel" has a dreadful record of failure. Do you think the "channel" that joined with the United Nations could be deemed to be another failure?