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  Hey Everyone! Recently "DA'd!"

  by jacobm in

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  i just "da'd" friday.

  i've been posting on here for years but do to anonymity, i had to start with a new account.

  would love to connect with anyone that i may know.

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  jookbeard

  welcome another member to the DA club like myself !
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  Is the Reachout Trust about to fold its tent for good?

  by slimboyfat in

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  as for a few others here, i know the reachout trust in the uk played a part in my mental journey away from the jws.

  i get the reachout newsletter by email and the last few mentioned that they are scaling back their operations because of financial shortfall and that doug is no longer taking a wage.

  i also wonder whether mike and ann thomas are no longer associated with the reachout trust because i can't find mention of them anywhere of the website.

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  Slim, I dont know,maybe I didnt pay too much consideration to the thread at the time but as the years past and after meeting more and more folks that had dealt with them there seemed to be a common denominator as to why myself and the numerous other folks decided to have nothing to do with them any more, the reason being was there extreme Christian stance within their counter cult work, Awake to the Watchtower was a decent book though. I have spoke about my experience on other threads though, I think there is a few out there.
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  Is the Reachout Trust about to fold its tent for good?

  by slimboyfat in

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  as for a few others here, i know the reachout trust in the uk played a part in my mental journey away from the jws.

  i get the reachout newsletter by email and the last few mentioned that they are scaling back their operations because of financial shortfall and that doug is no longer taking a wage.

  i also wonder whether mike and ann thomas are no longer associated with the reachout trust because i can't find mention of them anywhere of the website.

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  a few things dawned on me at the time I started to make contact with them all those years ago about the early 1990's and certain things seemed to be purposely withheld from you when you begin the initial contact with them is the absolute allegiance they all have in their dedication to evangelical Christianity from Doug at the HQ to the numerous "area representatives" that were affiliated to them , I kind of felt they were very dishonest and certainly questioned their outreach methods, also this was the era of "exit counselling" which was very controversial at the time and still is, I was hoping that they could appeal to me in a more relaxed workshop style form of cult exiting regardless of a persons religious leanings, but it couldn't be further from the truth, I've said it before but Doug seemed to create a cult within a counter cult group, fortunately I only invested a few months and I was able to move on.
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  Good news to report: Congregations merged because lack of attendance, publishers & field service

  by Khaleesi in

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  so it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.

  why is it good news???

  because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .

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  2 long standing very traditional congs been around for decades shared a nice quick build erected in the early 1980's folded in the last few years in my circuit in London UK, would never have thought it, the few remaining members were assigned to one local cong and the others a few miles further away
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  Is the Reachout Trust about to fold its tent for good?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  as for a few others here, i know the reachout trust in the uk played a part in my mental journey away from the jws.

  i get the reachout newsletter by email and the last few mentioned that they are scaling back their operations because of financial shortfall and that doug is no longer taking a wage.

  i also wonder whether mike and ann thomas are no longer associated with the reachout trust because i can't find mention of them anywhere of the website.

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  its was strange my comment on this thread 4 years ago and was clearly not what I was thinking at all, Dougs comment about " not being religious" really couldn't be further from the truth as I have first hand testimonies from friends who dared disagree with Doug on small doctrinal issues, points 1 and 2 are clearly not so either, also all those years back they passed my contact information to some nut who was a pastor at an evangelical church and who phoned me at very inconvenient and unplanned times ( bear in mind I was still married to a JW and the relationship was certainly struggling) and my wife was not only getting upset but incredibly suspicious about who these calls were from, he seemed kind of agitated and kept repeating how urgent it was that we meet, I dont know if I was being groomed for some sort of "exit counselling" I told ROT and this nut to take me off their so called support network, its was all very strange and weird.
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  Cappytan has made a video. Here is the link

  by joe134cd in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsbfnzrbiqq

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  no joy from the UK Cap
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  What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

  by smiddy in

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  for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

  christ left a ministry , or meeting .

  children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

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  Creative

  Leniency

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  Militancy
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  Books I read when I deprogrammed

  by OrphanCrow in

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  blondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.

  canadian exjws from calagary.

  an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.

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  Carl Olaf Jonsson has to be up there
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  What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

  christ left a ministry , or meeting .

  children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

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  Childish Lessons About Mortality ?
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  Did you KNOW Ray and Cynthia or the legal copyright holder? Only a few maybe had limited contact.

  by blondie in

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  i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.

  i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.

  there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.

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  but if legitimate legal downloads had been made available from some time back it would have counteracted the bootleggers need to offer copies, how many times does this need to be repeated, its basic common sense and logic,its like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted and needn't have been like this