Posts by jookbeard

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How the Internet is Destroying Mormonism

by slimboyfat in

interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.

http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.

what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.

jookbeard

OC, I always thought the blood ban came into full force in the early 1950's so what was Knorrs' motivation to think this dreadful doctrine up? did he just pluck it out of thin air? was it borrowed from another belief system?did he think about the repercussions for the R&F ? did he pay any attention to the destruction, death and damage it would do? they have a Jonestown tragedy many times over! did he just make it up because he could?.

Hayden Covington was of the great crowd and the Judge must have known Knorr and Franz could never have considered him for presidency, plus he was playing a very important role as the WT legal counsel , a role they would have wanted him to remain in.

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The Watchtower Corporation's (JWS) extenuating lies .....Why and for what purpose ?

by Finkelstein in

upon researching the historical activity of the wts.

it becomes clear that the head editorial writers of this religious publishing house propagated many formative lies or unproven speculations framed within its own bible theological interpretations.. .

going right back to its earliest inception the head writers of the wts proclaimed that christ has returned and that mankind was going occur a dramatic change through this returning establishment of christ, as prophetically told though bible scripture.. the first year devised by the wts of this return was 1874 and through means of using an obscure measurement of the great pyramid of giza 1914 was to be the year of armageddon.. the 6000 years of mankind's existence was used at that time as well ( early 1900's) to support this supposed code cracking, which was used once again in the late 1960's to create 1975 as another year of significance.

jookbeard

a 137 year old fraud, and still going, the good thing to see is the growth and slow down and the masses that are leaving it, a poisonous, repulsive, murderous,dirty,seedy,dishonest group that that are far far worse than the so called churches of Christendom that they have so vehemently condemned over the years, religion a snare and a racket? Yes it all is!

The purpose? money simply, I never paid much attention at the time due to the propaganda lies and dishonesty we were fed over the years but there was money in it, when we charged for the mags and books on the D2D work, they were quids in because they were paid for it twice! and when the contribution arrangement was discontinued the R&F still paid , it wasn't until all those years later and reading Ray Franz' works that we realised how cheaply those mags and books were to produce with the amount of free (slave) labour , many people have an interest financially in the WTS, look at the many sub cooperation's that are part of it, I always wondered about that.

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A JW experience

by Saintbertholdt in

this is a quick experience i have recently had and i have two questions at the end.. a couple of weeks ago, the dogs were barking at the gate on saturday morning and wouldn't you know it, it was some witnesses.

there was a father with his lovely wife and their young daughter.

the father did all the talking as mother and daughter just dutifully smiled and watched.

jookbeard

Fencing its a strange strategy they have now because the winning over of potential recruits in regards to being armed with The Reasoning book and over coming objections etc,at one time must have been relatively successful , how many times have to heard it said " I joined because I couldn't win the arguments with them" Its still clear that very few householders read the mags, they are boring, poorly made, its hard enough getting the R&F to read them, if I was shown a video presentation I think I would be just as disinterested , maybe they are paying attention to stats like what this site and many others quote about the over 7000 hours it takes to convert 1 single recruit, the stats dont lie!

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A JW experience

by Saintbertholdt in

this is a quick experience i have recently had and i have two questions at the end.. a couple of weeks ago, the dogs were barking at the gate on saturday morning and wouldn't you know it, it was some witnesses.

there was a father with his lovely wife and their young daughter.

the father did all the talking as mother and daughter just dutifully smiled and watched.

jookbeard

perhaps slightly more , the general questions they pose still wouldn't pose too much of an intellectual dilemma to a 10 year old though, just looking at them and using some basic logic in our objections quickly shows the flaws in these pointless and lazy presentations they continue to bother people with.

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A JW experience

by Saintbertholdt in

this is a quick experience i have recently had and i have two questions at the end.. a couple of weeks ago, the dogs were barking at the gate on saturday morning and wouldn't you know it, it was some witnesses.

there was a father with his lovely wife and their young daughter.

the father did all the talking as mother and daughter just dutifully smiled and watched.

jookbeard

one can have great fun with them when they pose this mind numbingly stupid question about how bad world conditions are in the 21st century , I've not been called on in over 20 years but in the rare chance I speak with them I ask them what particular age they would like to live in? the dark ages, the Victorian age, the bronze age etc? I to speak about advances in medicine, even in the Victorian age infant and mother mortality rates were incredibly high, I speak about the world population ( a pet subject of mine) at the end of most confrontations they have to admit that mankind has never had conditions so favourable to live in like now, but they end up going on that only God can bring his kingdom blah blah blah and bang on about that, more stupidity though. I ask them what world condtions will be like in 100/500/1000 years time, the advent of super powered computers that we will have access to, to advances in medicine and and stem cell research, the ageing process will be drastically changed and altered , designer embryos are very close, human cloning etc, its generally lost on them by this stage though

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Stephen Lett at our assembly today

by StarTrekAngel in

he delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.

wife typed up the whole thing.

i will be posting when i get a chance.

jookbeard

same as LisaRose, I'm astounded that this fool still gets the amount of stage time given the amount of times he must have made an ass of himself , the guy is a absolute cretin. The have taken him off their video broadcasts so its clear that he has been noticed how ridiculous he is, that crazy thing it appears he is allowed to make his own outlines for his own talks, I would have walked out after a few minutes.

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Do you think JWN members would be surprised if they got to know you in real life?

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

i don't think you'd recognise me much at all.

i'm a royal mail postman, i love my job for the early starts and midday finish, the outdoors and the exercise.. i get on with people but i'm quite insular and don't enjoy crowds.

i'm happiest when i've fired up the charcoal and i'm making souvlaki or adana kebabs for my family and a few close friends.

jookbeard

2 of us have said they dont enjoy crowds, the same here, I wonder if it has any relation being dragged to those dreadful DC's as kids, thats why I dont go to the football much at all

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How the Internet is Destroying Mormonism

by slimboyfat in

interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.

http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.

what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.

jookbeard

another sub 5 if Slim will permit would be

the huge child abuse cover up/court cases etc

Their UN membership

The Rand Corp share ownership

the organ/vaccination ban

finding out what really happens during a judicial committee

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How the Internet is Destroying Mormonism

by slimboyfat in

interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.

http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.

what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.

jookbeard

interesting that Millie, a brother I spoke with at when I was a Dub he had read this AI report and I didn't pay exact attention to the dates when the widespread persecution was taking place but this report was not even quoted in any Yearbook due to the graphic descriptions of the atrocities that Banda was inflicting on them, a wiki search lists incidents in 1967/1972 and 1975/6, Malawi was also receiving humanitarian aid from the UN, again I dont have the links of the exact dates but the issue surrounding the so called "party card" that the jw's were not allowed to wear or carry was also card that they would have needed to show to claim any aid.

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How the Internet is Destroying Mormonism

by slimboyfat in

interesting video, shame it wasn't about jws.

http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.

what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.

jookbeard

Millie210 you really need to read up on the Amnesty International reports about the Banda ragtime in Malawi in the 1970's not only to jw's but to the Indian community among others