thanks for that news Freddo, stupid how they've tried to spin the re-branding of these once called great/grand International Conventions, remember the huge catering setups? the tents for other non English speaking DC's? ( I think i'll pop over to the Spanish speaking tent) the foreign delegates in their national garb? the "greetings" in the announcements section? none of it happens any more, they are on the way out, a busted flush.
jookbeard
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Regional Convention Stat. from the UK
by freddo inanother fantastic increase i mean stagnation for the jborg chariot .... cardiff, wales, uk convention july 27-29th 2018. attendances 3500/3600 (friday) - 4150 (sunday) approx.. baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10..
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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's
by Bad_Wolf inone thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
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jookbeard
SWAT; I'm afraid you are going to have to do a bit better with statements like " mankind descended from Adam and Eve because the bible says it and because I say it and if you dont believe it you are stupid" time to go back to the drawing board I'm afraid, learn to research, present your evidence, you may learn something, lowering yourself to childish insults makes you look very foolish indeed.
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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's
by Bad_Wolf inone thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
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jookbeard
SWAT, yadda yadda
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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's
by Bad_Wolf inone thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
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jookbeard
SWAT, I just prefer to see Mother Nature take its natural course, you me and a pack of wild horses cant change that nor will it ever change, there is something quite beautiful,sobering, powerful seeing an Apex predator, stalk,prepare and execute its plan when its comes to feeding time, your angry evil bloodthirsty perverted voyeuristic Hebrew god of the OT would have devised other tests that Adam would have failed, plus he had issues with angels that rebelled that she/he didn't address properly, he/she likes to use the "blame game" you know, never admits to screwing up which he/she has done numerous times
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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's
by Bad_Wolf inone thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
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jookbeard
it was like leaving the asylum when I woke up and faded, the prospect of playing with ferocious animals that had become tame in a paradise earth even when I was a member of the R&F was ridiculous to me, utterly stupid, I moved on and didn't for one second regret it.
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The Latest Thing Waking People Up...
by pale.emperor insince i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.
also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.
active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.
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jookbeard
apathy has always affected them, its like a cancer clearly visible by their hopeless recruitment stats globally, I've never met a bunch of more downtrodden demotivated physically and mentally worn out people in my life, the cracks cant be covered over.
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Has Cart preaching over taken door to door?
by blownaway ini have not had a jw at my door [don't get me wrong this is great] for a few years.
is cart preaching the why its all done today?
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jookbeard
I have no doubt that the D2D work must be close to being finished in the area I live and many of the surrounding suburbs, you simply dont see them anymore, and I'm more than qualified to be looking out for them, unless you have been invited or are awaiting a parcel Londoners dont answer their doors to jack
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Has Cart preaching over taken door to door?
by blownaway ini have not had a jw at my door [don't get me wrong this is great] for a few years.
is cart preaching the why its all done today?
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jookbeard
the two ladies I speak with once every couple of weeks who operate the carts in my town also have a cart situated at the train station where the commuter trains disembark and I see them but when they are there at these times its busy with the passengers trying to head away ASAP, they stand there like they are handing out information that could be the answer to the ageing process or other such answers to our ills, or the winning lottery numbers, they almost shove the rags in peoples faces, naturally no one takes a blind bit of notice to the rags, FF a few yards up the road and earlier in the day. and if I see the ladies in a more suitable setting I'll stop have a relaxed chat etc, I commented that I often see them at the exits of the train station but as its busy I dont stop to chat as I understand its a busy time of day for you, last week one of the ladies replied " oh we really shift a lot of our magazines with those commuters getting off of their trains, only yesterday we shifted 60 of the rags in the space of a few minuets" I wonder why she would lie to me, there is not a chance in a million years they'd shift that amount especially in a boring dull commuter town like where I live and a part of London where KH's are being sold congs merged or disbanded etc, I present myself as a once interested person who's uncle was a jw and studied with me, if only she really knew what I know.
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Do Circuit Overseers outrank Elders? Why can't they talk to disfellowshipped people?
by garyneal inlast sunday, our family went to the kingdom hall and i realized that this was the week that the circuit overseer was in town.
when we sat down, i noticed he came over and talked to her then he walked away i guess to talk to others.
a few minutes later, he returned to tell her that he could not talk to her because he was informed that she was disfelloshipped.
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jookbeard
talked to who?
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Obviously Jehovah and Christ Jesus never felt the same way about Satan as Jehovah`s Witnesses do ? or other Christians for that matter .
by smiddy3 insimply put , jehovah tolerated satan coming and going before him in the heavenly realm for six thousand years before having him cast out of heaven .. think about that, six thousand years .!
and having conversations jehovah and satan .no shunning of him in all this time .6000 years.
we have an example of that in the book of job.and elsewhere.. the same is true with jesus christ ,according to the jehovah`s witnesses he was the first born of all creation and he also obviously tolerated satan for six thousand years .their is no example of shunning their either .. jesus was tempted by satan for fourty days { why was he with him for fourty days anyway ?
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jookbeard
what a loving god, and what a kind gift for all mankind casting down Satan and his demons to the earth, as if mankind didn't have enough problems to contend with, I think I know who the evil one really is and it isnt the guy in red with horns and a fork.