That would be a classic example of the " dog returning to its own vomit.'
Could not have said it any better.
i read on aol today that the morman church is inviting former members to return to the church.
food for thought....would former jehovah's witnesses return to the organization if the invintation would be extended from the society?
would you go back if being disfellowshipped or disassociated was not an issue any longer?
That would be a classic example of the " dog returning to its own vomit.'
Could not have said it any better.
would like to get to know some people from okla. who have decided to leave org.or at least chat on this site with you and see what all we have in common.
Raised in Seminole but live in tex. now. Have been to the congragation in Wewoka some years back.
perhaps this is a local phenomenon.
but it seems the elders are slower to chase down those that disagree, or have faded in the past few years.
i have heard (and seen) in the past where someone even remotely outspoken about disagreeing with the watchtower or some such would get the fury of divine retribution brought down upon them in an instant.
I told them I do not discuss my doubts with others
I said about the same thing . I told them "I wasn't bothering anyone and I didn't want to be bothered." It has been about 5 years now and no one has called. People who are still in, some still speak and some don't. It doesn't matter to me either way. So glad I woke up.
what did the easter egg say to the boiling water?.
it may take me a while to get hard, i just got laid last night..
yes it was a good one.
immigration laws .
bilingual programs in the schools are prohibited.. *************** there are no bilingual ballots for citizens that speak a different language from the majority of citizens.. ************** all government business will be conducted in the language of the majority of the population.. *************** non-citizens are not allowed to vote.. *************** foreign nationals, even if naturalized, are not allowed to run for office.. **************** foreign nationals, even if they gained citizenship, are not allowed access to government programs.. ***************** foreign nationals may invest in this country, but it must be 40k more than the minimum wage.. ***************** foreign nationals may buy property, but beachfront property is only reserved for citizens.
if you wish to buy beachfront property, you should try to naturalize yourself, which would include the revocation of your previous country's citizenship.
You said it right,megaflower. Here in texas, the dam illegals are givin a card for free food, clothing, and I am pretty sure they can get free gas on it for brand new cars and pickups they drive. All this because our president likes it this way.
on another thread, a poster alluded to the witness prohibition on uttering the word "lucky," as the word "lucky" is associated with dreaded paganism.
as i recall, instead of saying "lucky", witnesses are "counseled" to employ the term forunate.
the problem is this - the roman goddess of good luck was named fortuna; her greek equivalent was named tyche.
NewYork44M, another word is "golly."
on another thread, a poster alluded to the witness prohibition on uttering the word "lucky," as the word "lucky" is associated with dreaded paganism.
as i recall, instead of saying "lucky", witnesses are "counseled" to employ the term forunate.
the problem is this - the roman goddess of good luck was named fortuna; her greek equivalent was named tyche.
Look up the word "fortunate", My dictionary says "..a favorable chance" "lucky" so the word "lucky" and "fortunate" mean the same.
the truth is it---it's all about appearances.
it's all a fraud.
you are expected to "observe" a "ceremony".
It took me tooooooooooooo long to find that out.
just a heads up to anyone who might still attend the occasional meeting, there's gonna be a major guilt talk on the service meeting during the week starting april 7, 2008. it's entitled "why put off baptism?
" (kinda weirdly worded title if you ask me.
sounds like it would be a list of good reasons to put it off.
HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT IS STILL IN. HER SON IS 10 AND SHE DOES STILL LET ME KEEP THEM [HAS A GIRL7] FROM TIME TO TIME. MY GRANDSON HAS ASK ME WHY I QUIT GOING TO THE MEETINGS AND I TOLD HIM IF I TELL HIM THE TRUTH, HIS MOTHER WOULD NOT LET HIM SEE ME AGAIN. I told him they push the young ones to get BAPTISED AND FOR HIM TO REMEMBER WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW IN JESUS FOOTSTEPS AND THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS WAS BAPTISED AT 30. I ASK HIM NOT TO TELL HIS MOTHER ABOUT OUR TALKS OR HE WOULDN'T GET TO SEE ME ANYMORE. HE SAID HE WOULD NEVER TELL SO I TOLD HIM WHEN HE GOT OLDER AND COULD UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THEY TEACH I WOULD LET HIM READ FOR HIS SELF SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE TAUGHT. TOLD HIM TO NEVER GET BAPTISED UNTILL WE HAVE THAT TALK.
i need some support and advice with my situation and hope you don't mind me going on a bit because i feel wretched!
i hurt so much with my jw family relationship and find it so frustrating that whatever i do or say doesn't make any difference.. my son and wife had a little girl 9 months ago, my first and only grand child and i love her so much.
when she was born my hubby and i helped them a lot wiith buying all the expensive things she needed, as my son hadn't a well paying job as being a die hard jw he believes in the "education and career isn't what you should be doing propaganda" put out buy the wt.
There is no win with that organization. everything is on their terms. As long as a person stays in, they will do what society says. All of us who were in lose our family but gain freedom.