just a guess, stocwach
he doesn't respond because your apologetics are just lame....maybe???...do you think???
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Joseph Alward are you ignoring me?
by stocwach inonce again you appear to selectively choose not to respond to legitimate rebuttals to your mumbo jumbo, just as you never responded to repeated efforts for you to reveal your letter to the wt society, although you were more than happy to provide a letter from the wt to you.
don't you realize how your credibility is affected by your cowardly actions?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23413&site=3
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Bible Contradition: Cursing the Fig Tree
by JosephAlward inthe contradiction below is just one among a great many which show that the bible cannot be trusted to give an accurate account of jesus life.. mark believes that jesus cursed the fig tree before he drove the merchants from the temple:.
the next day as they were leaving bethany, jesus..said to the tree, "may no one ever eat fruit from you again.
" (mark 11:12-14).
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cellomould
It's not so much the error that gets to me, Joseph...
Actually, the worst bit of behaviour I think Jesus exhibited was when some guy came up to him and said that he would follow him, but first he has to go and bury his father. Jesus replies to this by saying: "let the dead bury the dead". I never really could get my head around this little incident. It's extremely cold. Heres a guy who's grieving for his father and all the prince of compassion (jesus) can say is: let the dead bury the dead. Just ooozzes love!
...more incriminating is Jesus' attitude towards an inanimate object.
This is just not something you can imagine the Son of God doing. It's childish.The same type of angry reaction he displays in the temple. Wouldn't he have thought about the problem of salesmen in the temple before God sent him down to earth?
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America Will Execute Brit Today.
by Englishman inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .
englishman.
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Thichi
You stated that you feel the DP is not a deterrent. I refer you to the study I posted in this thread that shows Homicides did in fact increase when a moratorium was in place for the PD.
Because you get rid of the DP and then homicides increase doesn't exactly mean there is a cause effect relationship. There are many other factors involved in the increase and decrease of crime rates...it's a complex phenomenon. I could show you countries where after getting rid of the DP there has been no change in homicide rates I'm certain....maybe even a decrease...I know I can go straight to Amnesty International's site, or hundreds of other sites that oppose the DP, and get some stats or studies to throw back at you that support the idea that the DP has no added deterrent value.I think it's very logically unsound to conclude that death penalty is a deterrent.. and yet a life behind bars isn't??? Makes no sense to me. I dont believe that the DP has any deterrent value above a life behind bars. I really see no reason to conclude that that would be the case.
Also, what about murders who got life and then escaped and killed again? You can argue that if they were DP, they would not have created more victims after excaping. So the DP does lower crime. Something to think about.
I'd say thats an issue more to do with security...of which the Dp has nothing to do with. No good reason for the death penalty in itself.
The idea that we must have a death penalty because murderers might otherwise break out and kill again isn't as good an argument to me as: we must not have a DP because we might execute an innocent person.
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America Will Execute Brit Today.
by Englishman inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .
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ThiChi
from your above article:
In the 24 years since the Supreme Court authorized the resumption of capital punishment, 620 convicted murderers have been executed.
I remember reading an amnesty international report that said there was some question about the guilt of some...maybe not "proven", as stated in your article...but certainly some question as to their guilt or innocence. That same report was also critical of the execution of people with mental retardation, serious mental illness, and juveniles...
Not one has subsequently been proven innocent, despite the intense scrutiny these cases draw from death penalty foes.Nevertheless, let us suppose the worst. For the sake of argument, let us assume that the death penalty -- despite all our best efforts, despite all the safeguards and caution built into the system -- leads to the deaths of a few innocent people. Is that a good reason to do away with capital punishment?
well me for it is. As I see it, the death penalty has absolutely no deterant effect. So why not just lock the bad guys up for life where they cant harm society, and in the process possibly save a few innocents from the chair. Seems like a good compromise to me.
Of course it isn't.Every institution that is of benefit to society also poses risks to society -- including the risk that innocent victims will die.
Patients die on the operating table because their surgeon made a mistake. Forty thousand Americans die in car accidents every year. Are those good reasons to abolish surgery and interstate highways?
Well we can hardly ban all human activity and go live in a glass bubble. Living entails risk..thats a fact. But we can minimise risk. We have safeguards and standards in hospitals, on highways...and in our courts. Getting rid of the death penalty would be just another added safeguard against a possible bad decision as I see. -
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What's yer favourite TV Comedy of all time?
by VioletAnai inmine would definitely have to be the young ones.
i'm such a sucker for brit humour.
just the thought of viv and rick - cracks me up.. what gets you giggling away?
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oh yeah...Roy and HG
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What's yer favourite TV Comedy of all time?
by VioletAnai inmine would definitely have to be the young ones.
i'm such a sucker for brit humour.
just the thought of viv and rick - cracks me up.. what gets you giggling away?
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the larry sanders show
men behaving badly (british version)
ummm?.....the simpsons....Raw is war (the wrestling)
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Dont blame the witnesses, its the Bible...
by sleepy indont blame the witnesses, its the bible's fault.. well you can blame them for trying to stick to the thing, but belief in the bible is the main problem.. i've heard the gb and witnesses be called evil by some, as though they have gone out to hurt people on purpose.. but i doubt that this is true, at least in recent times.. no the problem comes from believing the bible is god's word and trying to interpret it and follow it.. what happens when you do so?.
you get the catholic inquisition,people burnt at the stake,you get jews fighting for a promised land, religious groups who let their children die and a host of other problems.. i ask a question.if you were god and were going to have a book written on how man should live, would you do it in such a way that if misinterpeted or taken too literaly or mistranslated slightly , could result in the death and suffering of thousands of people,and would enslave people to false religious beliefs?.
yes there are good points and principles in the bible, mainly the words of jesus, who didn't write any of it himself.. but a few good principles don,t outweight the bad done in the name of the bible through the past 2000 years.. the society has tried to follow the bible, and take it for real .in doing so they have had to take on beliefs and ideas that can ultimatly cause harm.. it is like me reading a instruction manuel for my car, that is a fake written by a non-expert.if i follow that manuel , although it may not be all wrong, some instuctions could be in error and cause damage to my car and risk injury to other people.. if people then come along after and say "well its not the manuel thats wrong , you've just misunderstood it , look if you do it this way,that way..".
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Gumby
Suppose we go go to God right now and ask him......"God...what do you think of all the bad things that have happened because of your word the bible"?
Well...I was just talking to God on the phone just now (As you do. He's pretty accessible these days). He told me he didn't write the book. Told me I should go read the Koran instead... -
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Fighting in Afghanistan/Warthog
by Adam inwith all i've been reading in the newspaper, i have yet to hear one mention of the a-10 warthog.
this plane is extremely manuverable, highly survivable with tripple redundant systems all thru the plane, and packs a major punch with its nose cannon which the plane was built around.
it would seem perfect for the small arms fighting going on right now.
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yeah...check it out, the BLU-82B/ the daisy cutter/ the commando vault, as it was called when used in Nam. Not exactly smart, but it bloody kills good. They should just drop a few more of these babes and blow up the whole mountain.
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Fighting in Afghanistan/Warthog
by Adam inwith all i've been reading in the newspaper, i have yet to hear one mention of the a-10 warthog.
this plane is extremely manuverable, highly survivable with tripple redundant systems all thru the plane, and packs a major punch with its nose cannon which the plane was built around.
it would seem perfect for the small arms fighting going on right now.
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hey, what about that daisy cutter... now that SOB'll kill just about anything...
are they still droppin' that muther?
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