One thing she said is true - Apostasy does start with independent thinking. The term "independent thinking" is actually redundant - so far as I've been able to ascertain, all thinking must be independent. I don't know of any way to allow multiple people to think with my brain, so what's the alternative? Therefore you can leave the "independent" out of the statement: Apostasy starts with thinking.
Galileo
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I was told I sound like an Apostate
by senora inso i'm in the process of ditching my jw friends and one of them tells me that i'm starting to sound like an apostate why??
because i'm going to yet another congregation and she feels that i should stay in one cogo to get established.
first of all i'm about to go into a foreign language congo wherein i speak half the language and want to be fluent in that language, but my real reason is....i don't want friends and family finding out about my fade so they won't start calling me and bugging me.
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Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit ...
by compound complex infrom shakespeare's hamlet, 1603:.
lord polonius .
this business is well ended.. my liege, and madam, to expostulate.
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Galileo
"All great truths begin as blasphemies" - Bertrand Russell
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Who's Going to the Memorial Tonight?
by daniel-p inok everyone, who has to go to the memorial tonight?
check in here, state the reason you have to go, and when you get back, let us know how it went and your impressions.
for me, i have to go for my family--since i'm doing the fade i figure it won't kill me to go.
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Galileo
I'm going, I put in an appearance every now & again so my friends that are still in can feel OK about hanging out with me. But I'm getting PLASTERED first! My new annual tradition. And hey, at least they're serving food and alcohol at this thing, right?
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Atheists are a bunch of meanies...
by nvrgnbk inso i don't want to play anymore.. i'm taking my ball and going home.
my turn to rant.
jesus christ, burn.. if you have god almighty on your side, what's with all the frustration?.
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Galileo
niether athiest nor believer will know which side is correct, until God comes down here and tells us, or not.
Well there you go. He has not. We win. This issue can be reopened for discussion when he does. Until then, I expect you and all the other theists to consider the matter closed, by your own logic.
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Hypocritical makers of "Expelled" movie expel a biologist from theater
by Gopher init's almost too perfect.
myers, a biologist at the university of minnesota - morris, followed all the rules in order to attend a special screening of ben stein's new pro-intelligent design movie "expelled", but was expelled by the insecure makers of this movie!
even more ironic, myers was interviewed for and appeared in this movie.
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Galileo
"What surprised me is it is a really lousy film, even if you happen to agree with it," said Dawkins, who took advantage of a question-and-answer session after the screening to ask why Myers wasn't allowed in.
God I love Richard Dawkins.
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How Did Your JW Wife or Husband Leave You?
by new boy ininspiried by other post and threads....and the love to type.. after going from being a self rightious pioneer and bethelite, to someone who had major doubts.my years drifted by me.
i had been a watchtower slave for over 50 years.
one day at a time, i sold my soul.
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Galileo
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. It is all too familiar. Many of us have bought our freedom at great cost. But I agree, it is worth the price.
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My life - A brief history. Part 3 (conclusion)
by Galileo inthis is part 3 and the conclusion to my journey out.
part 1 can be found here, and part 2 is here.. .
truth.
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It's apparent that although your mind is discounting Biblical authority and regulation of living, your emotion still functions with some subservience to it, don't you think?
Maybe this is the trickiest thing to be sure about - that your feeling and thought are now deprogrammed beyond the influences of a work you deem flawed and thus mere advice, to a point where you are sure you can construct a replacement 'thought-feeling soul' to progress and function on what it does now deem acceptable within its own logic/essence!?
I'm not entirely certain I understand this completely, perhaps you could clarify. It is certain that some parts of my personality were formed by the Judeo-Christian ethics and morals of the bible, and the WTB&TS interpretation thereof. Some of it I'm still working on de-weeding from my subconscious, like my gut reaction to politics and holidays. Other parts I'm sure I will carry with me always, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I believe religion has evolved largely as a way of teaching morals and ethics, and while many of the stories may not be true, many of the lessons are still valuable. I don't believe, for instance, that Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt, but I believe not looking back at what could have been once you've decide on a course of action is good council. Does that answer your question?
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My life - A brief history. Part 3 (conclusion)
by Galileo inthis is part 3 and the conclusion to my journey out.
part 1 can be found here, and part 2 is here.. .
truth.
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If you could magically roll the clock back to that fateful night in 2005 and have a chance to try again, is there anything you would do differently?
This is a question I ask myself often. I honestly don't think so. Not that I think I handled the situation perfectly, but I think the outcome would have been the same because of the person my wife is, and even the mistakes I made were important for me to make. I hope that makes sense.
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My life - A brief history. Part 3 (conclusion)
by Galileo inthis is part 3 and the conclusion to my journey out.
part 1 can be found here, and part 2 is here.. .
truth.
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I think your 3-part essay has finally inspired me to write my own chronicle of leaving the faith.
Please do. I look forward to reading it. Reading the experiences of others who left gave me comfort and it was with the hope of helping others grappling with leaving that I decided to record my own experience.
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My life - A brief history. Part 3 (conclusion)
by Galileo inthis is part 3 and the conclusion to my journey out.
part 1 can be found here, and part 2 is here.. .
truth.
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Galileo
Just one question - can you do the fandango?
HaHa! That took me a minute. No, I'm not much of a dancer. Party on Dozy.