A Rabbi was discussing why the Jewish Faith had survived for thousands of years.
He pointed out that the centre of the faith was the children. Because the children were put first they wanted to stay in the faith as the faith respected them and so they respected the faith in return.
I appreciate this comment !
Friday evening I attended a Jewish service (I'm taking a college class religions of the world)and the way that the children are involved is amazing.
The kids seem to want to be a part of this faith, nothing like the JW way of raising kids.
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Why the WT Society is DOOMED!
by Gill inyesterday morning i was listening to 'thought for the day', on radio 4 bbc.. a rabbi was discussing why the jewish faith had survived for thousands of years.. he pointed out that the centre of the faith was the children.
because the children were put first they wanted to stay in the faith as the faith respected them and so they respected the faith in return.. the problem with the wt society is that it puts itself first and the children are just a nuisance to be sat silent in meetings, disciplined for wriggling, talking, and just being children.
the leaders of the wt despise children and only love themselves, giving only lip service to the care children should receive and more importantly the respect children should receive.. therefore, with offspring of jws leaving the wt at the rate of only 1 in every 8 children remaining, the writing is on the wall of the watchtower society.
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What are the best and worst congregations in the Midwest
by laneh inwhat do you think, either way?
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Crystal Lake, Illinois.
Back in the 70's and 80's I knew many people who went here, and all I heard was how f####d up the elderbody was.
lets see,,some of the names i remember hearing were sterene, and penkava, some of the most self absorbed sob's i ever heard about.
The cong. was a mirror image of their lack of confidence, everything had to go EXACTLY the way these guys saw fit, or you were doing something wrong ( usually there was a spiritual deficit on your part.)
There were many persons that I knew back then who basically quit the jw's, or moved to another hall because of these two guys unrelenting need for power and control.
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Chet Lemon
by asilentone inhe was a professional baseball player with detroit tigers and he became jw in the 80's.
i was wondering what is his status in the org?.
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I met him at the Janesville Wisconsin assembly hall back in the late 70's when he just was starting to study.
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What Careers, Opportunities Did you Have to Sacrifice - to be a Witness ?
by flipper ini know this may be an annoying subject .
but if you did have to give up doing what you wanted in a career or opportunity - what was it ?
how controlling was the organization over you, and were you counseled by elders or higher ups to not pursue certain jobs, opportunities, college , etc - so that you stayed in the witnesses for awhile ; not doing what you wanted?
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medical school,
I worked for a doctor in H.S. and he really wanted to help me out.
He was going to pay for, and give me a loan for school.
But J W's don't do that!!
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Witness Kids - Scared silly by the WTBTS
by misspeaches ini wonder if anyone else who grew up as a jw can relate with me on this subject.. i grew up hearing stories of 'faithful brothers & sisters' being tortured to a point where they were almost dead.
all they had to do to be set free was renounce jehovah and their religon.
the stories i heard of torture were graphic in nature and to this day i can not handle hearing about torture or watch it being portrayed in movies.
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what really blew my mind is hearing all these stories growing up, yet when Schindlers List came out our
PO continually stated that this movie was not for christians.
i mentioned that many brothers and sisters had to endure things shown in this movie, and even in the WT magazines there are some
pretty graphic descriptions of torture on the witnesses.
Nope, Schindlers list is not a good movie,
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The Occult
by mahler inin the hall i used to attend i found alot of people had 'demon' stories, did you know anyone like this or have any run-ins yourself?
i personally think they were zealot delusions.
nevermind i just did a search a found a whole bunch of stories.
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tupperware ?? i never heard of this story, could someone enlighten me about it ?
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Do you think JWs actually care if they convert people or not?
by LouBelle inthe reason i ask this is because when i was on the field way back in the day - i really couldn't be bothered if the householder was interested or not.
if they took literature and paid for it (we asked a certain price for literature before it all became on a donation basis) it was a bonus, plus meant money for a cooldrink / tea & cake afterwards.. actually i would prefer it if they weren't interested so i could get away from the door - sometimes their ""conversation stoppers"" made too much sense and i couldn't answer back.. that meant i didn't convert anybody.
do you think most of the jws' are like that today?
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I forgot to enter Caspers comment on my last post,it should be 1st sorry. This happen to me a lot. I loved talking to the elderly...but then, I would find myself agreeing with them, and wishing I had faith like they did about their own religion... Cas
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Do you think JWs actually care if they convert people or not?
by LouBelle inthe reason i ask this is because when i was on the field way back in the day - i really couldn't be bothered if the householder was interested or not.
if they took literature and paid for it (we asked a certain price for literature before it all became on a donation basis) it was a bonus, plus meant money for a cooldrink / tea & cake afterwards.. actually i would prefer it if they weren't interested so i could get away from the door - sometimes their ""conversation stoppers"" made too much sense and i couldn't answer back.. that meant i didn't convert anybody.
do you think most of the jws' are like that today?
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This happen to me a lot. I loved talking to the elderly...but then,
I would find myself agreeing with them, and wishing I had faith like they did about their own religion...
That is so true, I cringe when i think of how I would try and convert some older people, and deep down inside
I KNEW that they were happy with their beliefs, and all the while I talked like i was some kind of
a stuck-up young know it all bastard.
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I need a phone prank for today
by berylblue innot merely a good one - a great one.
nothing i'm googling is very appealing.. my coworkers got me good yesterday - well, i had gotten them first.
now it's my turn again but i'm off today.. .
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do you sell prince Albert in a can ?
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WHAT if we're wrong?
by shell69 ini mean, i know i'm bitter.. normally these days quite strong, not feeling so much so much the last few days though.. what i'd give to do the things i was used to.
going doing the weekly shop with my mum, her popping round for a brew in the morning.. a hug from her, just to to know from the way she communicated with me, that she loved me.
i miss her so much.. and what if i'm wrong?.
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Live for today,
don't worry about the past,
and certainly don't give yourself an ulcer about the future.