Posts by lancelink

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If I was still PIMI, I'd be terrified

by neat blue dog in

just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.

and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.

looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .

lancelink

in that 3rd, bottom picture it looks like the angel is guiding the police as to where the witnesses ae

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are the witnesses now considered "clergy " ?

by lancelink in

years ago when i was a jw, one of their cornerstone teachings was that they were nothing like babylon the great.

i remember being taught that the witnesses not using any type of clergy class distinction was proof that they had the right religion.. well, recently we had this article in the local paper, and an elder who was no doubt the presiding overseer tried to use the clergy class excuse to get out of answering questions regarding a child abuse case.

here is the statement that really got to me.

lancelink

years ago when I was a jw, one of their cornerstone teachings was that they were nothing like Babylon the Great. I remember being taught that the witnesses not using any type of clergy class distinction was proof that they had the right religion.

Well, recently we had this article in the local paper, and an elder who was no doubt the presiding overseer tried to use the clergy class excuse to get out of answering questions regarding a child abuse case. Here is the statement that really got to me. "The Kingdom Hall elder, Michael Penkava, tried to invoke his right as a religious leader to not testify against Hernandez-Pedraza. Ultimately, he was required to answer questions about actions the congregation took after learning about the sexual abuse."

Is this now the normal thing for witnesses to fall back on since child abuse is so rampant in this belief system ? https://www.nwherald.com/2019/10/23/crystal-lake-man-found-guilty-of-more-than-decade-of-sex-abuse/a4fuium/

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If I was still PIMI, I'd be terrified

by neat blue dog in

just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.

and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.

looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .

lancelink

when we were in, our kids would change the entire theme of pictures like this.

One Sunday, they, ( along with several other elementary school aged boys) changed all the characters from the magazine into TV characters.

Just imagine looking at the angels looking down from heaven,,,, and they had all become characters from Star Trek the Next Generation. Now those were funny, memorable meetings that we all enjoyed !

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cart witnesses

by stan livedeath in

i drove through a nearby seaside town today.

it was starting to rain.

it was cold.

lancelink

I go to downtown Chicago quite often, and doing cart witnessing must cause a certain type of cognitive dissonance.

Hundreds, if not thousands of people walk by these carts, and the witnesses are smiling and either talking to each other, or playing with their phones.

its embarrassing to watch them .

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jw's think that they are above the law,,,, again.

by lancelink in

again the ugly head of child abuse raises its head, and the witnesses are hopefully caught red handed for ignoring it :.

https://www.nwherald.com/2019/10/23/crystal-lake-man-found-guilty-of-more-than-decade-of-sex-abuse/a4fuium/.

lancelink

Again the ugly head of child abuse raises its head, and the witnesses are hopefully caught red handed for ignoring it :

https://www.nwherald.com/2019/10/23/crystal-lake-man-found-guilty-of-more-than-decade-of-sex-abuse/a4fuium/

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D-Day, not a single JW gave ultimate sacrifice while 9,000 Americans did just that

by FatFreek 2005 in

as the major news outlets today published tributes to the 9,000 americans who landed, and were killed, on the beaches of normandy in the largest seaborne invasion in history -- u.s. jws can sit back in their kingdom hall seats and home easy chairs, proud (and ignorant) of the facts that no jw ever killed a nazi in france's occupation.. today, most americans can proudly continue to speak english instead of german, or japanese -- partly because of those brave americans, not a single jw among them.. thank you to your grandfathers, great uncles, and other heroic men who never lived out the potential and promised of a fulfilling life..

lancelink

when I left the jw organization, that was one of the aspects that really rubbed me the wrong way. I got involved with a group called Honor Flight that flies WW2 vets out to Washington DC for a day to visit their memorial. The ways this experience has affected me is amazing. The things those soldiers had to do-deal with is so sobering and has helped me to see that [people outside the jw mindset have truckloads of humanity,,, here is some pictures of an experience I just had out in Washington : https://www.facebook.com/sschwertfeger1/media_set?set=a.10157218875184882&type=3

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Ex jw memorial

by lancelink in

recently a young person who was df'd died.

as you can imagine, there will be no talk at the hall.. well, enter some very courageous other young ex jw's who had their own memorial.. these people got together , and had a bonfire in memory of our friend.

and since we have hardly seen each other in over ten years, the conversation and tears flowed all night.. it just amazes me how all the parents of these grown up, normal young people think that ignoring their children is something that god approves of.

lancelink

Recently a young person who was df'd died. As you can imagine, there will be no talk at the hall.

well, enter some very courageous other young ex jw's who had their own memorial.

these people got together , and had a bonfire in memory of our friend. And since we have hardly seen each other in over ten years, the conversation and tears flowed all night.

it just amazes me how all the parents of these grown up, normal young people think that ignoring their children is something that God approves of.

Several of them are married, have children, own houses, work a job, and still after several years, their parents have not even met the Grandchildren.😔 and that is ok with them.

another interesting thing I saw was that all the girls had married a guy who accepted them with someone who has no family because of the jw's. And they go so much out of their way to support their wives, what a wonderful thing to see and hear about.

we had a toast at the end, and most everyone told a story about the deceased, and there was a lot of laughing, and crying. But it was very therapeutic for everyone, because we all reconnected, and caught up on out lives.

much more so than the jw cut and dry memorial talk, it was a wonderful night .

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Becoming a jw actually made me a much more worldly person.

by lancelink in

i was raised a catholic from birth to age 15, that's when my dad started to study with some jw's that came to our door.

i was too young/ naive to notice how my lifelong friends were slowly being replaced with so called " outstanding spiritual youths".. anyway, there was randy and kevin, the sons of the po from the hall, everyone thought that they were the most spiritual people i could hang out with.

these guys taught me the fine points of :.

lancelink

I was raised a Catholic from birth to age 15, that's when my Dad started to study with some jw's that came to our door. I was too young/ naive to notice how my lifelong friends were slowly being replaced with so called " outstanding spiritual youths".

anyway, there was Randy and Kevin, the sons of the PO from the hall, everyone thought that they were the most spiritual people I could hang out with. These guys taught me the fine points of :

1) dating worldly girls

2) how to drink beer and Jack Daniels heavily

3) how to smoke, starting out with cigarettes, then graduating over to the finer points of joints and pot pipes.

4) introduction to heavy duty porn magazines, and films.

5) how to nurse a Saturday night hangover and attend the Sunday morning meeting and make everyone believe that I was a spiritual person.

if their Dad ever caught them drinking, or smoking pot, ( which he did quite a few times) he would slam them into a door and tell them to straighten up or he would loose his position at the hall.

one time Kevin came home after drinking heavily, his Dad backhanded him and shut the door. During the night, Kevin vomited while laying down and almost passed out.

so in conclusion, this religion really showed me firsthand how much fun being a totally worldly person could be. Any other stories that show the shallowness of the religion ?

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Tacoma Dome Conventions

by Lynnie in

so i went to visit my jw aging mother this week (i've been df'd for 40 years) and she told me she needs to give the people who are taking her to the convention $10 each day of the convention to cover gas?

my uber elder cousin told her she needs to do this!!!

wtf?

lancelink

That parking lot scandal comment brought back a few memories. We attended Hawthorne Racetrack in Chicago Illinois.

for weeks before the assembly, an announcement was made at the service meetin, book study, and after the wt study regarding how all attendees should get their money in to purchase parking passes before the assembly dates.

years later I heard that this was a big scam put on by the wt society.

quite sad that a religion that crows nonstop about how honest, and righteous they are resorts to being thieves.

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Cart work - picture speaks for itself

by doubtfull1799 in

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lancelink

When I was in, they constantly used the example of Noah regarding how hard we should be working.

Noah had to :

1) build the ark

2) preach nonstop to the people

3) put up with persecution for what he was doing

4) prepare the ark, and get all the animals in it.

wotnesses sitting and doing nothing while the general public walks around?

God must be just so proud of these so called witnesses 😦