Posts by keinlezard

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Was there really a specific request for money in this week's meeting?

by stuckinarut2 in

i have seen a few comments about this week's meeting.. was there actually a part that specified an actual per-publisher amount that should be donated regularly?.

can this be confirmed please?.

i truly cant believe just how brazen the society seems to be getting - and how desperate they are!.

keinlezard

Hello,

here in France ( near Paris ) the letter was never read !

neither last week nor present week.

There are French people here who listen this letter ?

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2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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finally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.

this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.

keinlezard

Hello

bad quality video :(

but quite courageous to make it in KH :)

We see the flag at time 0:58 behind the window

The KH is here. but in Google streetview we didn't see the flags :-(

https://www.google.fr/maps/@-33.5401564,-70.6583425,3a,52.3y,210.44h,94.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-jv0983vNkVbwoMCSHv03A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Another lie. This time from the UK Branch

by alanv in

andrew schofield, a spokesman for jehovah’s witnesses in britain, states: “for almost 60 years, our administrative operations for britain have been located in london.

however, larger facilities became necessary due to the increased demand for bible-related literature and materials.

we began site preparation on the 34-hectare (approx.

keinlezard

Hello,

More than a joke . They are really psychologically ill

remember few years ago there were 4 publication each month , each magazine have 32 pages

the last year december 2012

Avake 41 042 000 ( 84 language)

Watchtower public 42 182 000 in 195 Languages

and now ?

awake 60 240 000 in 18 languages

Watchtower public 61 651 000 in 307 languages ...

but there is a problem

in 2012 there were 2 A + 2 W each month and each with 32 pages in reality

Watchtower print 4 * 32 *2 * 41 000 000 pages a month

125 952 000 000 pages / year

Today with only 16 pages * 12 magazine they should print

656 000 000 of publication

but the last printed magazine report 10 times lesser !!! only 61 000 000 !

It"s a big big lie !

they don't need bigger print facilities .... it's mathematicaly demonstrated :)

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1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

i think these exist ?

has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

or have copies of those pdf's?.

keinlezard

Hello,

have you try http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/index.php?static1/la-bibliotheque

here there are many publications ( but in french )

https://sites.google.com/view/lauweriere-christian/

best regards

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What is behind your choice of forum user name?

by stuckinarut2 in

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just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

keinlezard

Hello,

keinlezard ... from German ... no lizard ( my first name on forums and news groups .. but lost my yahoo account :( )

I don't know if you ( english or German too ) have this expression but in France we translate "kein lezard" or "no lizard" by "pas de lézard" and that mean "there is no problem" just because I am really cool ... "There is no problem only solution " :)

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Why "... when it does touch on scientific matters [the Bible] is accurate" is bogus BS.

by Island Man in

jws and other christians would often point to the handful of the bible verses that seem to be scientifically accurate as evidence of its divine inspiration.

but not surprisingly, they ignore the ones that are scientifically inaccurate, or when they address those verses they put a spin on it like saying the account is not a reflection of what the bible is teaching but what men at the time erroneously believed and which god allowed them to record in the bible.

would you believe a jw actually told me that!

keinlezard

Hello,

Scientificaly exact ???

Uhmm ... I don't think so

For exemple Job 26:7 Suspending the earth upon nothing.

First thing often those who want say "Bible is scientificaly exact" .. omit the this Verse is

He stretches out the northern sky* over empty space,Suspending the earth upon nothing;

In fact we see immediatly that something is wrong ... what is supposed to mean "streches out the sky over Empty space" ... this sentence has as is, not sense.

Then we must read all the verse

26 Job said in reply:

2 “How you have helped the one with no power! How you have saved the arm that has no strength!+

3 What great advice you have given to the one lacking wisdom! How freely* you have revealed your practical wisdom!*

4 To whom are you trying to speak, And who inspired you to say such things?*

5 Those who are powerless in death tremble; They are even lower than the waters and their inhabitants.

6 The Grave* is naked in front of God,And the place of destruction* lies uncovered.

7 He stretches out the northern sky* over empty space,Suspending the earth upon nothing;

And this time the meaning is quite different the Verse 5 say "those whi ... in death"

verse 6 says again "The Grave" and "the place of destruction lies uncovered" ...

then verse 7 indicate "he stretched out the sky over empty space" ... this empty space is the Grave ( Dead doesn't know nor dream" this place is really empty.

And this earth is upon this empty place. Not in space like JW say ... but upon the grave wich is the empty place.

When we read context we see that it's not Scientificaly exact , because it is not the description of something that is a science fact, but something that have to do with Grace and Death and the human condition

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My New Fascination - Evolution!

by pale.emperor in

since leaving watchtower i kind of hit the "reset" button in my mind and reevaluated what i thought i knew, what i believe and i require proof for every idea put before me before i commit to it.

lately i've been fascinated with evolution.

as a jw i never even looked at the subject, dismissing it as "just a theory".

keinlezard

Hi, Pale.emperor,

What do you read or see exactly ?

Because often ( I'm alway JW ... on the paper but not in my mind :). A long story ... )

When I talk with people ( and JW particularly ) they only see / read subject that they've seen In publication.

In my "reference", I know that "Evolution" is a Fact !! a Real Fact !

Consider for example :

- Erv ( Endo retro virus ) that are common between apes and mankind. This kind of virus could only be passed through reproduction and genes

- Genetics

There is alway all excellent book : Dawkins, SJ Goul, C. Sagan, Alexandre Meinesz

Series : Cosmos ( Sagan and nowNeil deGrasse Tyson )

Archeology, History ... even it's not really in touch with "Evolution" they give "clue" on what is really the World and what is "Evolution Theory"

Special Talks of Kersk on Saturday 10th June 2017 ( France ... kersk speak english )

by keinlezard in

this we a member of wt, that is actually in south korea, does a special talk when he visite the french bethel.. all jw of france ( and guyane, marttinique, ... and other dom-tom toot ) assit through video to this "special" talk.. i've recorded all program ( 3 hours ) .

the record have several part .

- talks.

keinlezard

Hello,

This WE a member of WT, that is actually in South Korea, does a Special Talk when he visite the French Bethel.

All JW of France ( and Guyane, Marttinique, ... and other DOM-TOM toot ) assit through video to this "special" talk.

I've recorded all program ( 3 hours )

The record have several part

- talks

- watchtower study ( 30 ' )

- talks

The link to the record is

http://ul.to/qi8gk1rm

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Last of the big conventions?

by NikL in

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friends

had lunch with some friends during today's waste of time convention.

they spoke of the rumor floating around that the jws will move away from these big regional conventions and have them at assembly halls and tie them in to kingdom halls.. they seemed to believe it was a pretty reliable source.. i think it would be too good to be true but who knows?.

anyone else heard this rumor?.

keinlezard

Hello,

I'm from France to ... but in Paris ... the Assembly take place at "Villepinte" and it 's not an Assembly Hall

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48% Capacity at Kingdom Halls - A post on reddit

by berrygerry in

there was a letter read this week, followed by a talk about all the changes that are coming in the next couple of months regarding merging congregations in the area (va/md/dc) - the letter said that the kh's in the area are only being filled to 48% capacity.

this was music to my ears as i have noticed the decline in attendance in all the neighboring congregations.

they will sell some kingdom halls and merge some congregations.

keinlezard

Hello,

Same in France , near Paris,

KH seem to less than 50 % occupied

But the illusion of full is maintained by the presence of foreign language congregation with a french congregation.