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chikikie
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It looks like I will become an elder this week!
by outofthebox inthat's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
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It looks like I will become an elder this week!
by outofthebox inthat's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
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chikikie
whatever sirona.
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It looks like I will become an elder this week!
by outofthebox inthat's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
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chikikie
just because i do not have any bible and god issues, doesnt mean I dont have any Jehovahs witness issues.
Ive been coming on this site since 2001 every year around march 10th, I got baptised march 10th 1996, I dedicated my life to God on this date and I really meant it, what made me leave was the people and the suffering and the shunning of others, why should it be the bible that has fucked me up, it wasnt, I know about the bible from reading cover to cover over and over again 'My book of bible stories' a book which I love. I keep this book and let my daughter keep it and read it as well as my own little new world delux bible, I have not kept any other books or publications. I do not have any hidden agenda and come onto this site to help me fight these yearly feelings that I must go back to the witnesses, I find that you are very aggressive in your posts to me, I have not warranted it all, not all of us are god haters, I happen to believe there is a god and a jesus and that the bible is inspired of god, many people believe too in a god. I struggle to understand and come to terms with my life as a JWs which makes any celebration hard, I do them but i feel its wrong like the way you feel when you fornicate, i would give anything to have wiped out my years as a JW, but alas this is part of me which wont go away, i have to learn to suppress it and live my life the best i can, the biggest gift I gave to my daughter was to leave when she was four, she has no lasting memories of the JWs. I only ever hang around for a week or two then I go back to my life again no doubt I'll be around next year, so dont judge me, I think we have all been judge enough ok
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It looks like I will become an elder this week!
by outofthebox inthat's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
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chikikie
lol pickled 'say what' my sister probably understood what you have written, me its just simple, I was brought up in it, i didnt need to extensively study, i only needed to believe three things, 1) to believe there is a god, 2) believe there is a jesusand 3) the bible is gods word, I still believe these three things, I doubt Id join another religion, I doubt I'll go back to the JWs, Id go back for some closure for me to say a few things to some people but that is in naomi fantasyland where people give a damn, most of them dont and dont remember wrongdoings anyway, so if your looking to reason on scriptures, your talking to the worng sister, I never understood the ins and outs anyway, i was just happy to go and sit and look into space most meetings, I have never said I study the bible, i never thought i needed to , im a classic blind believer, i feel id be the same if I was brought up in any religion, it just happened to be JWs. what you have written has just gone over my head, must ask my sister to explain it to me, i just answered what i thought was the question you asked as best I could. thanks N
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ok so who exactly is going to the memorial this year....and why?
by Cordelia ini am, my dad is doing it, i'm going to their hall theyve just moved there (to 'help' out).
i figured its the one meeting i can't miss as i upset them by not going to any others at all, also ive made a point of not going to my hall and i won't let anyone know i'm at my dads.
my dad is actually worried i might 'be apostate' about it, as i once said surely passing on the bread and wine is like saying 'no thanks jesus!
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chikikie
i thought about going but then remembered american inventor is on tonight, cant miss that
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Need quick list of things wrong with JW memorial service!!
by oompa inmy old elders, wife, and son know i have had issues with the servcie and talk for years.
i will start list:.
1. why would i even be there, if i have an earthly hope?.
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chikikie
if it was done at individual houses of 10/15 ppl wouldnt this cost the elders a fortune in win and unleven bread, you know how tight they are lol
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Need quick list of things wrong with JW memorial service!!
by oompa inmy old elders, wife, and son know i have had issues with the servcie and talk for years.
i will start list:.
1. why would i even be there, if i have an earthly hope?.
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chikikie
if it was done at individual houses of 10/15 ppl wouldnt this cost the elders a fortune in win and unleven bread, you know how tight they are lol
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PROVE you are a conscious being
by journey-on inwhat words would you use?
what descriptions about your existence would you make to prove you are conscious?
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chikikie
'I think therefore I am'
ok I pinched it, descartes i think.
Initially, Descartes arrives at only a single principle: thought exists. Thought cannot be separated from me, therefore, I exist (Discourse on the Method and Principles of Philosophy). Most famously, this is known as cogito ergo sum (Latin: "I think, therefore I am"), or more aptly, "Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am"). Therefore, Descartes concluded, if he doubted, then something or someone must be doing the doubting, therefore the very fact that he doubted proved his existence. [4]
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It is official. I am an elder now!
by outofthebox init happened last night guys.
i got early to the kh and the boe came to talk to me.
they ask me to read the bible and asked me a couple of questions.
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chikikie
Indeed.
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It looks like I will become an elder this week!
by outofthebox inthat's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
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chikikie
Ok pickled....
My sister is 6 years older than me, my day left when I was 10 and she was 16, my father physically attcked my mother thruout their marriage, because of my years, altho I remember some of the abuse my sister being older remembers most of, including the time my dad jump on top of a door which my mother was under, she had to pretend she was dead and lay extremely still so he would stop and went off to bed in a stupor, she has no feeling in her left side of her face due to this one incidence, i do not remember this, I havesome fond memories of my dad, but i do not keep in contact with him, wheras my sister has tried on many ocassions to gain a relationship with him, I have three other sisters, my sister rachel is 1 year younger than reniaa and she wont even talk to him, my sister is an incredably forgiving person, she seems to forgive many people awful transgressions, wheras altho Im quite forgicing there are some things which i cannot forgive. we have talked extensively on this, one of our major agruments has been on shunning, I recieved plenty of shunning, sometimes I felt invisable, I was always the last one paired up in the field service, married brothers sometimes elders would touch me up at meetings, all this because i was pretty, but considered spiritually weak, at the age of 24 some elders wives and other older sisters put it upon themselves to get me married to a 64 year old widowed elder and encouraged me in every way possible, i refused politely with comments there is a big age difference, with replies this doenst matter, the new system is around the corner and we will be all young again so age doesnt really matter does it, there was an elder of 32 who i was really interested in, infact really liked at that time, I think he liked me, but the sisters who arrange the marriages (unofficially) dissuaded him, i was not spiritually for him, thus not a good choice, so my reasons for leaving was that I wanted to be loved married and have more children, So I moved to devon and started a new life without the JWs. My sister left because she was trapped in a marriage, before she went back to the JWs, she met him at butlins and thought she was in love, she read alot of romantic novels and he was her boss at the little supermarket she worked at, he was 13 years older than she was and she was 18hought , so a bit of power can make someone look incredibly sexy and she was attracted to that. Anyway marriage wasnt what she thought, i cant go into details as my sister would kill me, i have probably said to much anyway, it was loveless, she left to maybe meet someone nice and then go back I suppose, anyway as it transpires, neither me or my sister have had much success in the love and marriage stakes, we both have three children, well when she has this latest sprog anyway. Her view of the JWS has always been romantic and faultless, she likes the congos, she likes being apart of them, her own weaknesses and feeling unworthy is what keeps her away, and I stay away because of the shunning really altho my thoughts to going back and getting reinstated would be to stand up to them, at 24 i was unable to speak out, they thought i was a loser, now at 32 nearly, I want to say to their face that what they did was dispicable, i suppose in many ways I want closure, i want to stand up to the bullies and tell them they did not break me, im a success in my life! I hope this answers your question, im not as articulate in my answers as my sister.