While I was in prison my mother wrote me how glad she was because I will not even be 30 before the new system will be here. That was back 1968, now I am 71 and my mother is 95 and busy thinking that if it does not come within her lifetime then it will come sometime later. I am assured that she has knowledge of past failures like 1914 and 1925, it is sad to see that some of us never learn.
Haereticus
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Random Thoughts on Getting Older
by Lee Elder inthe reality that all of us ultimately must face is that we get older and our bodies, and our minds eventually fail us.
i have seen this first hand in my family, in the jw community, and in the ex-jw community.
it is simply a sad part of the human condition, as is physical, emotional, and mental illness.
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QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage
by wisdomfrombelow inthe article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
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One more reference:
YES - w56 Oct. 1 p. 604 par. 20 Others surviving in a different state, widowers, widows, virgin men and virgin women, will be privileged to marry.
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Observations about last nights meeting...
by DATA-DOG in... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!
draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.
excruciatingly boring.
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"'The prince of the power of the air.' Eph. 2:2... That is, Destroyer. But in plain English his name is Satan, the Devil" (The Finished Mystery p. 159).
The word "Abaddon" is derived from the Hebrew term abad, and is applied to Jehovah, who is the One that is "able to save and to destroy". Jehovah destroys them that hate him. (Deut. 7:10) Many Scripture texts apply this Hebrew word to Jehovah relative to destruction. For example:"I will destroy thee, 0 covering cherub." (Ezek. 28:16) "Shall I not in that day [day of the Lord], saith the Lord, even destroy [Hebrew, abad] the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau [Satan's organization]?" (Obad. 8) To the same effect it is written: "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots." — Mic. 5:10.
The Greek word Apollyon, which the Revelator applies here, means "destroying one", and is applied many times in the Scriptures to Jehovah, who is called the destroying One. (Matt. 10:28; 21:41; Jude 5) If there could be any doubt about this, James settles it when he writes: " There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy [Greek, apollymi]: who art thou that judgest another?" (Jas. 4:12) The overwhelming Scriptural authority, in both the Old and the New Testament, applies these titles to Jehovah. (Light I p. 145-146)
"In Hebrew his name is Abaddon, meaning 'Destruction'; and in the Greek it is Apollyon, meaning 'Destroyer.' All this plainly identifies the 'angel' as picturing Jesus Christ, the Son of Jehovah God" (Then is Finished the Mystery of God p. 232 ).
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I have often seen JW`s supposed beleif of 1925 as the end .....It`s not what I remember
by smiddy ini could be wrong of course , but as far as i recall 1925 was not the date of armageddon , but was the date the" princes of the earth" would be resurrected .
the princes of course were faithfull men of old such as abraham issac and jacob, anybody who had a prominent part in gods favour.. witnesses at assemblies after 1925 were constantly awaiting to welcome the resurrected princes of the earth up until the late 1950`s.
these faithfull resurrected men were to lead the rank and file into the glorious new system of christs thousand year reign.. smiddy.
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"Membership's belief in this date was so total that many farmers did not plant crops in the spring of 1925! The authors were personally told of two examples of this in western Canada. In one case witness told us that his grandfather went ahead and planted his crops in the spring, though other members of his congregation did not. The congregation elders chastised this man for his lack of faith. That winter the grandfather was looked to for assistance by those who had not planted their crops." (Leonard & Marjorie Chretien: Witnesses of Jehovah, p. 43, ISBN 0-89081-587-9)
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JW's and prevalence of civilian service
by Haereticus inevery now and then i have seen rare mentions of countries where dubs do attend a civilian service as per watchtower 1996 may 1. i have been asked to compile a list of those countries, the reason being that right now finland is revaluating its old jw exemption law.. .
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"19 What, though, if the State requires a Christian for a period of time to perform civilian service that is a part of national service under a civilian administration? Here again, Christians must make their own decision based on an informed conscience. “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God.” (Romans 14:10) Christians faced with a requirement of Caesar should prayerfully study the matter and meditate on it. It may also be wise to talk the matter over with mature Christians in the congregation. After this a personal decision must be made.—Proverbs 2:1-5; Philippians 4:5." (Watchtower 1996 May 1 page 20)
The underlined is what I am after.
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JW's and prevalence of civilian service
by Haereticus inevery now and then i have seen rare mentions of countries where dubs do attend a civilian service as per watchtower 1996 may 1. i have been asked to compile a list of those countries, the reason being that right now finland is revaluating its old jw exemption law.. .
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Every now and then I have seen rare mentions of countries where dubs do attend a civilian service as per Watchtower 1996 May 1. I have been asked to compile a list of those countries, the reason being that right now Finland is revaluating its old JW exemption law.
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My 66th birthday is today!!
by Terry inonce i was little boy in fort worth, texas living with my maw maw and paw paw and mommy.. then, i was an 18 year old 6'4'' skinny 165lb religious nut being dipped in a baptismal during a local assembly.. suddenly, i was 20 and listening to a jail cell door clang behind me as a conscientious objector.. wow!
23 years old and put on parole until my 6 years sentence was ended!
i got married to a nice jw girl and had 3 kids!.
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Happy birthday Terry
Mark
P.S. It is a funny coincidence that a few hours ago I felt I had to PM you.
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The (missing) brackets in the NWT
by kifoy init was a great day, that convention day they announced that the new world translation now was to be released in the norwegian language.
first the greek scriptures in 1991, and in 1996 the whole bible.
finally we too were able to read the best translation ever made!
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kifoy
Here OT refers to two years, but NT refers to forty:
1 Sam. 13:1
Saul oli [?] vuoden ikäinen alkaessaan hallita, ja hän hallitsi Israelia kaksi vuotta.
Saul was [?] years old when he began to reign, and for two years he reigned over Israel.
Acts 13:21
Mutta siitä lähtien he vaativat kuningasta, ja Jumala antoi heille Saulin, Kisin pojan, miehen Benjaminin heimosta, neljäksikymmeneksi vuodeksi.
But from then on they demanded a king, and God gave them Saul son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years.
I know that this is because of differing manuscripts, but still I cannot see why they chose to contradict with the lenght of Saul's reign?
Markku
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The (missing) brackets in the NWT
by kifoy init was a great day, that convention day they announced that the new world translation now was to be released in the norwegian language.
first the greek scriptures in 1991, and in 1996 the whole bible.
finally we too were able to read the best translation ever made!
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kifoy
And it may not have been a direct translation from English either?
At least I would translate that passage a bit diffrently from English NWT
Can you check Mathew 23:5 on your 2007 CD as well?
"Kaikki tekonsa he tekevät ihmisten katseltaviksi, sillä he leventävät [raamatunlauseita sisältävät] kotelot, joita
he käyttävät suojelusesineinä, ja suurentavat vaatteittensa reunukset."god natt
Markku
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The (missing) brackets in the NWT
by kifoy init was a great day, that convention day they announced that the new world translation now was to be released in the norwegian language.
first the greek scriptures in 1991, and in 1996 the whole bible.
finally we too were able to read the best translation ever made!
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kifoy
Here is Finnish contribution for John 7:46:
1975 printed version: Virkailijat vastasivat: ”Koskaan ei kukaan [toinen] ihminen ole puhunut sillä tavoin.”
2007 CD: Virkailijat vastasivat: ”Koskaan ei kukaan toinen ihminen ole puhunut sillä tavoin.”
Markku