i was once on the ministry with a brother who asked the householder 'where do you think we are in the stream of time'. had to really stiffle a laugh at that one and the face of the poor bewildered householder.
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one aspect of mind control is thought control by using "loaded language"
by megaflower inwe all know the wts has its own set of words and expressions that make them unique and sets them a part from other organizations.
lets see how many we can come up with.
i'll start.
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Do you think JWs actually care if they convert people or not?
by LouBelle inthe reason i ask this is because when i was on the field way back in the day - i really couldn't be bothered if the householder was interested or not.
if they took literature and paid for it (we asked a certain price for literature before it all became on a donation basis) it was a bonus, plus meant money for a cooldrink / tea & cake afterwards.. actually i would prefer it if they weren't interested so i could get away from the door - sometimes their ""conversation stoppers"" made too much sense and i couldn't answer back.. that meant i didn't convert anybody.
do you think most of the jws' are like that today?
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i would say most in my cong dont care, they are just putting in time. they go out bec they have to, if they didnt then i think the ministry hours would drop by 70percent.
until recently i always wanted to really convert people, thats why i have always had bible studies. i currently have two. the problem is going when you arent sure you believe it yourself. pretty grim.
Helen
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Just an introduction
by ataloa ini have been a lurker for a few months.
my story is not uncommon, just the usual "skinned and thrown about like sheep without a shepherd".
the many different viewpoints have helped me sort things out in my own mind and gone a long way toward the healing of my heart.. just wanted to introduce myself and express my appreciation for this site.. ataloa.
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helenhall
Hello and welcome to you.
Helen
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What's your favorite dinner?
by beksbks inhome cooked, healthy if possible?
mine is probably some sort of salad.
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helenhall
home made sweet and sour vegetables with rice and spicey hot pancake rolls and a glass of red wine mmmmm
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What's wrong with the WTBS in a nushell.
by JeffT ini realized the other morning that it was twenty years ago that i started my exit.
at the spring 1988 circuit assembly (i think it was in february or march) they absolutely hammered on the point that higher ed was a waste of time.
armageddon was going to happen any day now and there was no point in preparing for life in system that was about to end.
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They are the perfect example of man dominating man to his injury
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what would you put in room 101
by helenhall inthings are pretty heavy in my life right now, so thought i would post something just for fun.
on the tv programme you are allowed to put 3 things into room 101 that you hate and would like to see the back off, forever, so what 3 things would be top of your list.
mine.
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Things are pretty heavy in my life right now, so thought I would post something just for fun. On the tv programme you are allowed to put 3 things into room 101 that you hate and would like to see the back off, forever, so what 3 things would be top of your list
Mine
1. chewing gum - hate the stuff. hate to see people chewing it, or finding it stuck somewhere. the world does not need chewing gum
2. 2 door cars - not because im a witness mind! i just think if a car holds 4 people it should have 4 doors. i hate having to climb into the back of a car through the front door, then sit there feeling trapped. if i get into a car, i like an entrance and exit at the side of me.
3. wind chimes - i hate the look of them, messy hanging things, and the awful noise they make
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We've had an influx lately (newbies)
by dinah infirst off, i don't mean "newbie" in a mean way.. do you guys think it might be helpful if we have a "getting to know" you thread started?
let new ones, and long-tme lurkers feel welcome and share stories.. i've been fascinated by what i've read in the last couple of weeks, and frankly, usually too emotional to reply.
it seems the same old story replays.. .
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good to read the experiences of others. Here's some information about me.
Time: 9.10am UK time
Age 44
Married, 2 children, boy 21, girl 17
Studied after getting a knock at door when i was 16, and baptised by 17 (parents totally freaked about that, as they had taken me to church up until I was 16)
Fav food - anything vegan, whole family is vegan. Love to bake
Fav TV programme - LOST
Hobbies, love to walk, swim (esp in the sea), dance, play piano, astronomy, and love to travel
TV character I am most like - Brie from Desperate Housewives, unfortunately!! I like everything to be just so, and get fed up with myself for being like that
Childhood hearthrobs - David Cassidy, Donny Osmond, Bay City Rollers
Who I aspire to be like - Shirley Valentine - one day, one day...........!
Where I will be in ten years time - dread to think at the moment
What I hate - cruelty of any kind, to people or animals. it makes my blood boil.
Fav smell - Roses, i just bought a new perfume by Paul Smith called Roses - it smells devine
What i would do different if i could do it again - everything, i would be a hellraiser! well, probably not, but i wouldnt have lived my life with this awful guilt. Better to live one day as a lion than a thousand as a lamb!
thats me, hope it wasnt too boring!
Helen
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How do you leave?
by helenhall inwhen every single person you know is a witness, how do you leave?
has anybody here left, and had nobody on the outside.
because that's where i would be.
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helenhall
Thanks for your responses. Being here, well this is like a first step, but still feels like a huge step. I feel dreadfully guilty at the moment. I am hoping that will pass. Ive spent my entire life feeling guilty so its not a new feeling.
I have a close friend in another congregation. I mentioned her in another post. She has suffered abuse from her husband for 20 years and after seeing the elders because she could no longer cope with her marriage, she was removed as pioneer, for having no respect for her husband. I saw her yesterday and she is on the edge too. I'm still being careful what I say. Maybe she is too. Great isnt it - when you cant even tell your closest friends the truth. She asked if I fancied doing a Thelma and Louise (some film she saw where two decent women decide its pay back time). Think Im going to have to try and see this film!
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negotiating with mom
by tavash inyesterday was sunny and i felt strong.
i felt up to the challenge, so i called mom.
tomorrow is one year since nan died, so we're bound to have contact.
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welcome Tavash
sorry you lost your grandma and the situation you are in with your mother.
I agree with you that 13 is too young to be held responsible for 'vows' you make. You were a minor and that makes your parents responsible not you, so if anyone should be shunned its them.
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How do you leave?
by helenhall inwhen every single person you know is a witness, how do you leave?
has anybody here left, and had nobody on the outside.
because that's where i would be.
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thank you all, good advice. i like the advice about making friends on the outside first. I have been thinking about doing this for sometime, and have had opportunity, but so inbred is the belief that worldly people are wicked, that i continue to hold back. If you have ever seen Toy Story, I feel like Buzz Light Year, when he takes off his helmet and starts to panic thinking he wont be able to breathe, because he believes that space suit really does something. Well thats the panic I feel in the world and the organisation acts like my space suit, if you get the metaphor!