Your seasoned Witness quoted the Watchtower magazine not the Bible. Just because the Watchtower articles cited are peppered with Bible references doesn't mean that these references support the Witnesses' inbred interpretation. It is a case of going beyond what is written and dressing it up or camoflaging it with Bible references. He's turning to the Watchtower for support, not the Bible.
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Only Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of this rant?.
“jehovah's witnesses are the only true religion.
this is demonstrated by a slew of true teachings that only jehovah could have revealed to his servants on earth.
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My impressions of the cart witnessing
by Sour Grapes ini have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.
the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.
when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.
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As I understand it, the public preaching work is still carried out by the majority in much the same way as it always has. There are still preaching demonstrations on the service meeting along with public engagement skills being taught in the ministry school.
Only a select few in each congregation qualify for the "privilege" of cart witnessing. My impression is that apart from the public ministry, the main purpose of cart witnessing is the promotion of the website, hence little public engagement.
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Early 70's JW POP Music: All Over, No wonder. By: The Great Crowd
by I quit! ingoing through a box of old records in my garage i came across this 45 by the great crowd.
it was given to me in the early 70's when i was living in crestline, ca.
i had no way of playing it because i haven't had a turntable in years so i googled it and found this link.
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Hi all. Haven't posted in a while but couldn't pass this up.
I was in that group. I played piano, sax and wrote the arrangements. The group was led by Phil Volk ("Fang" of Paul Revere and the Raiders). He wrote both songs. The group consisted of Phil singing lead and playing bass, three guitars, drums, five background singers, three horns, organ and piano. All were Witnesses and were indeed a "Great Crowd." Too many in my opinion, based on the theory that you are only as strong as your weakest link.
The record was released by my father on his record label, Lute Records. I have since inherited the label from him and have released digitally remastered tracks from his catalog as well as recently recorded material that I have produced. I have carefully avoided re-releasing The Great Crowd single in question.
You might be interested to know that several of us in the group were pretty drunk when we made the recording. One member, who was married to one of the background singers, left his wife for one of the other background singers, who then left him for somebody else, also a Witness. I'm afraid this crowd's white robes got a little sullied. The group's only public appearance was at Disneyland where we arranged to smuggle in some wine so as to be adequately prepped for our performance as per usual.
Fun times.
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Coping With Parents' Becoming Jehovah's Witnesses
by DNCall inmy sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming jehovah's witnesses in the 1950s.
she was a teenager at the time.
what is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day.
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Digoenesister: She is my older sister, 13 years my senior. What she discerned right off the bat took me 56 years. My story is in the 5-part "DNCall Unmasked" series on this site. She is remarkable indeed, as are my other two sisters, twins, who are 11 years my senior. They broke away as soon as they could just like their older sister.
Please feel free to share on exjwreddit.
jp1692: So true!
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Coping With Parents' Becoming Jehovah's Witnesses
by DNCall inmy sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming jehovah's witnesses in the 1950s.
she was a teenager at the time.
what is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day.
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My sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming Jehovah's Witnesses in the 1950s. She was a teenager at the time. What is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day. I think my sister's reflections may be of some help to any who are currently facing the issues raised when a parent or parents become JWs. Here is her story:
"It was the middle of my junior year in high school. Academically I was doing very well. I had been invited to join Alphas, the honor society, I was elected class secretary, my boyfriend had given me his pin, I had joined Students for Stevenson, my introduction to politics, I taught Sunday School at All Saints Episcopal Church …. in other words I was the poster-perfect teenage girl of 1952 .… until I went home after school.
"My father had become a Jehovah’s Witness and my mother was seemingly following in his footsteps. Almost every night I had to attend Bible studies to learn the “truth.” As my biblical education progressed, I became the unwitting victim of their manipulative abuse as one by one, I was separated from my activities, some friends, and even certain visits with my grandmother, especially if they were church-related.
"Although I might have been considered a child, I had experienced almost sixteen years of a contradictory belief system. When I offered an opinion, it was trumped by their black and white interpretations and was considered resistance and negativity. I was being steamrolled into agreeing with their point of view. I found their beliefs to be self-serving, blaming others for their own failure. It was awful to have all those adult things forced upon me and feel powerless to fight back. I begged them to allow our former minister to come to one of our studies to strengthen my arguments. He came, and they treated him with total disrespect, refusing to listen to him or even allow him to respond to their pomposity. My parents were cutting off all possibility of real communication between us and I was left afraid and anxious about my future.
"I was ashamed of my parents as they went door to door preaching, and so for months, I kept my fear and anger to myself until I felt I would burst. Finally, I tearfully shared everything with my boyfriend, Bob, and my closest friend, Lorraine. It was an immense relief to reveal what I had been living through. They had difficulty understanding what it all meant, but were both completely supportive and urged me to speak with the Dean of Girls at school. As a result, I made an appointment to see Romaine Pauley and found her to be a compassionate and wonderful listener.
"I explained how I had been ordered to resign from my class office and my membership in Students for Stevenson because the only government in which one should participate was Jehovah’s theocracy. I could no longer belong to the honor society because its project was to assist at the Red Cross blood bank serving juice and cookies to donors, and the Witnesses did not believe in blood transfusions. I was no longer allowed to attend church. But the biggest blow of all was that their Bible studies took precedence over education. I could only prepare for my classes if there was time after I studied with my parents or attended their meetings. I would not be allowed to go to college because only the study of Jehovah was important. Armageddon was looming and the world was about to end.
"By the time my junior year was complete, Mrs. Pauley had urged me to continue taking college required classes, explained that I would always be a member of the honor society even if I didn’t participate in its project, that I should go ahead and apply to colleges and would probably receive scholarship offers, and that after I finished high school, I might consider leaving home. She invited me to come and talk with her at any time. It was this wonderful support, her encouragement, suggestions and her availability to me, that guided and inspired me throughout my senior year.
"At home, I had to attend bible studies, our family social life revolved around the Witnesses, I had to attend their meetings, listen to their inflammatory rhetoric and go out in the service, knocking on doors and passing out Watchtowers on street corners. I was only allowed to see my school friends when it didn't conflict with Bible studies or meetings.
"I made the decision that I would leave home as soon after graduation as I could work out a plan. The summer after graduation, I had an unforeseen and wonderful visit from a cousin who understood and witnessed my plight, and agreed to drive me to Denver where I had an offered home with my aunt and uncle. I had not applied to any colleges because I couldn’t picture a scenario that would make it possible. Yet, a year later, with the help of all those who had supported me, I had a new home and a new vision. I did receive a full scholarship and I did go to college."My sister has had and is having a wonderful life, having obtained a college education, having nurtured two children to productive adulthood, having traveled the world and being married to an adoring husband. She used her brain, her sense of right and wrong, her optimism and whatever support she could find to have a successful and fulfilling life. I hope her thoughts give support to others.
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Clapping and singing in Conventions... like the evangelicals??
by ILoveTTATT2 inhttps://www.facebook.com/traslapados/videos/1470101566382318/?hc_ref=otherwhat do you think of this video?.
do you think they're imitating evangelicals?is this happening in other places?
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At least they're clapping on two and four.
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Loyalty - Part of the New Personality (S-341a-18-E 5/17)
by wifibandit inloyalty—part of the new personality (s-341a-18-e 5/17).
note to the circuit overseer:.
use this outline for the tuesday service talk from september 2017 through february 2018. you will need to prepare your own 30-minute service talk for use after the watchtower study.
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Loyalty is only as virtuous as the object of that loyalty.
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Just a thought . . .
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put youir thinking caps on.
by zeb inthis was sent to me from doug shields blog.
for those who like stats and numbers may find this of interest.. 1914 – recognizing the ”the elephant in the room”.
the problem with the date ”1914 ad” lays with the two calendars that are involved – jewish and gregorian.
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I just re-read my post and I need to clarify that Watchtower's fabrication is to say that the 70-year period of Babylonian domination is the same 70 years as the desolation of Judah. History shows that the desolation occurred sometime later. Using 586/7 as the fall of Jerusalem and the beginning of the desolation, seventy years later would take us to 516 BCE, the year Jerusalem's temple was rebuilt ending the desolation. On this, history and the Bible agree, while Watchtower is on its own.
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put youir thinking caps on.
by zeb inthis was sent to me from doug shields blog.
for those who like stats and numbers may find this of interest.. 1914 – recognizing the ”the elephant in the room”.
the problem with the date ”1914 ad” lays with the two calendars that are involved – jewish and gregorian.
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Fisherman: As Finkelstein and Wikipedia point out above, Babylon replaced Assyria as the world power at the Battle of Harran in 609 BCE. Babylon was defeated 70 years later in 539 BCE. This is the 70 years to which Jeremiah refers. The paying off of sabbaths and desolation of Judah mentioned elsewhere in the Bible is conflated with Jeremiah 25 by Watchtower to suggest a 70-year desolation. This is a fabrication and has no place in fact or history.