Posts by DNCall

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So, 60 Years Ago

by titch in

so, folks, 60 years ago, starting on september 1st, i believe, we, local witnesses in southern california, had the "privilege" of attending the "around the world assembly", at, of all places, the rose bowl, in pasadena.

(i think that it was an 8-day assembly) i was 9 years old then, almost ready to start 4th grade.

so, was anyone else, on this site, at that assembly?

DNCall

I was there. I was twelve years old and played in the orchestra that was led by my father. The legend that was circulated that on the second or third day of the 8-day convention, food service was going to be shut down by the heath department due to dust blowing into the large food vats. I believe it was the night of the third day that it poured rain and rained throughout the next day. Of course this was attributed to Jehovah's opening up the floodgates of heaven so that the dust was abated and the convention could go on.

It was extremely hot and unlike Southern California in the summer, quite humid. People were fainting in large numbers. It got to the point where there wasn't enough water to revive those who were passing out so they had to resort to splashing soft drinks on the victims.

After the program had ended, I accompanied my father to the administration trailer as he submitted his department-head report. Just then Knorr walked in after his marathon closing talk and prayer and said to everyone, "So, are you going to fire me?" Everyone thought that was pretty funny.

This was the wrap-up of a worldwide staging of conventions that had been going on for most of 1963, so a huge event in Witness-land. The level of personal effort of all who attended and participated dwarfs any efforts that are expended at conventions today. This contrast serves as but one example of how the organization has deteriorated.

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JW Elder Sentenced for CSA

by EasyPrompt in

https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.

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DNCall

I certainly hope the victim brings a civil suit against this man, the Governing Body, Watchtower NY and the local body of elders.

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Reinstatement...the aftermath?

by TxNVSue2023 in

i'm in the process of being reinstated ( my df'ing story is on here).

because i've never been in this position before, i don't know how i will be treated once i'm reinstated.

i moved ti a new city/state and i don't know a single person here or in my new congregation i am attending.

DNCall

If I remember correctly, the congregations have been instructed not to clap when reinstatements are announced. The reasoning, if you can call it that, is that a reinstatement is the beginning of getting back to the program. Only staying with the program over time is worthy of that kind of acknowledgment.

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Our Kingdom Ministry

by NotFormer in

my understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the watchtower and the awake!

looking online, it seems that the wt ceased publication of this in 2016. is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication?

or has it ceased to be?.

DNCall

Re the Kingdom Ministry to Kingdom Service and back to Kingdom Ministry, this had to do with the influence of Ray Franz in the 1970s. During this rare period of reasonableness that he brought to the GB, it was decided that "service" was a more encompassing term than "ministry," as it could include acts of kindness and helpfulness. He also promoted the concept of an "internal ministry." All this could be covered by the word "service." This gained enough traction that "Our Kingdom Service" became the new title.

Then, when Ray was removed, dismissed from the Bethel Family and subsequently disfellowshipped (or as it was mis-described "disassociated"), what reasonableness he contributed was suspended in favor of a "tightening up." It was in this process that the title, "Our Kingdom Ministry" was restored. It was evident that the GB was attempting to undo every bit of work Ray had contributed while serving in the Organization.

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Regional convention 2023

by sove in

jw
friends

any streamed content from this years regional convention available with any of you guys?

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DNCall

I don't believe the promotional video above was created without thought to featuring caucasian models and having it narrated by a man with a Northern European accent. Are countries with predominantly white populations being targeted here? I would imagine most of us can think of reasons why this would be advantageous to WT, mostly monetary.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

DNCall

Scholar: Your arguments are affected by faith. Faith that the Bible is God's Word and faith that the Jehovah's Witnesses are God's chosen organization. The other side relies on the abundance of records preserved from the Neo-Babylonian period. You accept and reject data and evidence so as to agree with the position taken by Jehovah's Witnesses. So long as this is the case, your scholarship will be hampered and you will not be well informed.

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Meet Olivia Newton-John's Grandfather, Max Born

by DNCall in

olivia's maternal grandfather fled htiler's germany in 1933. he was one of the founders of quantum mechanics and a close friend of albert einstein.

it was max born who famously wrote: "the belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it, seems to me the deepest root of all that is evil in the world.

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DNCall

Olivia's maternal grandfather fled Htiler's Germany in 1933. He was one of the founders of quantum mechanics and a close friend of Albert Einstein. It was Max Born who famously wrote: "The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it, seems to me the deepest root of all that is evil in the world."

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The Major League Baseball All-Star Game.....And, An Assembly

by titch in

folks: well, here in the united states, tonight, july 19th, is when the mlb all-star game will be played.

and, it will be played at dodger stadium, in los angeles, california.

for those of you who don't know, the all-star game is a game in which members of the american league teams compete with members of the national league teams.

DNCall

You and me both Dagney. I was in the orchestra. The Sunday session ended early so we had time to get home to watch Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. Snoozing through the All Star game as I write this.

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Michael Jackson Jehovah's Witness Thriller

by researcher1010 in

i'm a reporter working on a series about michael jackson.

part of this series will look at his life as a jehovah's witness and his relationship to the faith.

i've already spoken to a few ex-witnesses and one elder who have explained jw 101 beliefs and teachings.

DNCall

Michael was associated with the East Woodland Hills (or possibly West Woodland Hills) Congregation in California. You might contact the elders there as I believe both congregations still are intact. If I can remember the elder’s name who was assigned to him, I’ll post later.

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ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...

by BoogerMan in

straight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.

30 secs.

point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.

DNCall

What about babies born into Witness families? Is Lett unaware of prior teachings regarding "family merit?" It was the idea that a child was protected from condemnation by virtue of its parents' dedication to god. This protection would remain in force until the child reached an age where it could make its own dedication to god. That projected age was reduced as younger and younger children were being steered toward baptism. This of course would have to stop far short of being babies since infant baptism is condemned.

This is either "new light" or Lett is on his own with this one.