Posts by DNCall

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Circuit & District Overseers That Made An Impact

by minimus in

jw
friends

we have a lot of new ones on this site as well as some who have been here for years----i know this subject has been brought up before, but were there any memorable cos or dos that you can recall?.

co arnie scneider was my last co when i was an elder.

he was a very sweet man..

DNCall

I believe Angelo had a brother who served on a body of elders in New Jersey or New York. I had corresponded with him regarding a reinstatement.

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Circuit & District Overseers That Made An Impact

by minimus in

jw
friends

we have a lot of new ones on this site as well as some who have been here for years----i know this subject has been brought up before, but were there any memorable cos or dos that you can recall?.

co arnie scneider was my last co when i was an elder.

he was a very sweet man..

DNCall

Isaacaustin:

Danny Bowles was brought in to our circuit to clean up after lunitic CO had wreaked havoc. Always thought Danny was kind. I heard he died some years ago.

George Warienchuck was related to my best friend's family. Last I knew, he was serving Portugese language circuits. I remember him insisting on paying for my friend and me when we met him in the lounge at the Newark, NJ airport. I liked him as a person, although I don't know what it was like to be "served" by him.

F.

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reasons for the new song book, according to a dub

by highdose in

jw
friends

just asked a loyal dub i know why has the org now given out a song book, with so many songs taken out?

she looked at her convention notes and replied that the soceity said that some of the songs in the old song book were too difficult for new people to learn to sing.. and this was said with all seriousness... she totaly brought it!.

DNCall

Ideally, the Society would like to revise the songbook every ten years. From the time revision begins to release is approximately 13 years (i.e., 1969 to 1982 for the last songbook). Translation new songbook lyrics is daunting. The reason the new songbook took longer than this is that many language groups did not have the New World Translation in their language and priority had to be given to Bible translation.

The many songs that were cut were judged to be inferior musically and lyrically. One of the manifestations of this is that they were hard to sing--even for professional singers.

For more detail on this, please see DNCall Unmasked, Parts I through V.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/180011/1/DNCall-Unmasked-Part-1-of-5 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/180012/1/DNCall-Unmasked-Part-2-of-5 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/180013/1/DNCall-Unmasked-Part-3-of-5 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/180014/1/DNCall-Unmasked-Part-4-of-5 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/180082/1/DNCall-Unmasked-Part-5-of-5

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Besty Unplugged - My Life Story Part VII

by besty in

<< part vi.

part vii not the end or the beginning.

as mentioned previously i was starting to travel more frequently to the us on business, specifically los angeles.

DNCall

Bravo, Paul! Riveting from beginning to end.

Looking forward to our next caper.

Love,

F.

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Hooray! Watchtower Will Stop Molesting Bees!!

by metatron in

jw
friends

for years, loyal jehovah's witnesses have been singing about molesting bees and that "i can ever beat them off" well, it's good to know that this "beating off" capacity is the personal affirmation of every one of jehovah's people..... but no more.. i don't know what quasi-senile half wit came up with this awful song that makes anyone over the age of 18 cringe but i was told that it has been dropped from the new song book ("jehovah is my side" song 125 ).

i'm sure the bees are pleased with this "new light".

metatron.

DNCall

With all due respect to Farkel, and I could be wrong, but I believe Ron Fallic, an elderly brother from one of the South American Branch offices wrote the lyrics to 125, as he wrote most of the lyrics in the 1982 songbook. The lyrics to "From House to House" were written by Harold King and I believe Karl Klein or Vern Duncombe wrote the music. I used to have a list of all the composers and lyricists so I'm working from memory.

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Do you know the Leibenspergers?

by asilentone in

i was wondering where is jonathan, chuck and bethel (real name) leibensperger?

it would not surprise me if they are in bethel..

DNCall

I was acquainted with Tim and was close to his father whom I helped to reactivate. The last I heard, the three girls were all still active JWs (a blond, a redhead and a brunette).

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Do you know the Leibenspergers?

by asilentone in

i was wondering where is jonathan, chuck and bethel (real name) leibensperger?

it would not surprise me if they are in bethel..

DNCall

The last I heard, they lived in a private residence in Patterson. Parents upstairs, Bob and Bethel downstairs.

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My Story

by ~Jen~ in

jw
friends

i was raised a jw by very strict parents who, in my early teen years were physically and then later emotionally abusive all the while with my dad being and elder (and he still is).

i didn't want to be a jw then but my life was all about making my parents happy which started with me being baptized at 13. my parents constantly drilled into my head that most things were "bad" and i was "bad" i constantly did whatever i could to avoid being bad.

i had no life but then met a nice jw boy when i was 17. against my better judgement, i stayed with him and married him when i was 20. i didn't have a lot in common with him but he was really nice and was safe - he was a witness and even though i wanted to be in the world so bad i chose to be with him because he would keep me grounded, in the truth and away from where i really wanted to be because it was the right thing to do.. we were married for 7 years and have 3 sons.. for the past few years i've known that i did not want to be a jw even more and was sick of being fake.

DNCall

Hi Jen,

Welcome.

Regarding "the world" being all bad, my experience is that, yes, there are bad people. However the good people far outnumber them. These people are good in ways not comprehended or contemplated by the Witnesses. They have built hospitals and donated vast amounts to any number of charities. In war, they have given their lives for ideals that have proven to be for the good of mankind. They have created art, in many forms, that enriches our lives. They have produced literature that expands our understanding of just about anything there is to understand. They solve problems and work hard at meaningful tasks. They love unconditionally.

In reality, you are leaving a very limited and artificial environment.

Prior comments in this thread have advised you to inform yourself. Please do, so as to steer away from the bad and embrace the good.

Best of success.

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Besty Unplugged - My Life Story Part 1

by besty in

my story part 1 where did it all go wrong?.

hi, my name is paul and im an ex-jehovahs witness.

by the end of this sorry tale i hope to be an ex-ex-jehovahs witness.

DNCall

Excellent, Paul! I'm stayin' tuned.

F.

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Why The WTS chooses to shoot itself in the foot

by besty in

frank and barbara kavelin's recent disfellowshipping for 'apostasy' two years after they stopped going to meetings made me ponder why exactly the wts frequently pursues people long after they have disappeared off the jw scene.

at first glance it seems a counterproductive strategy to make enemies out of people who would otherwise leave quietly.

i've had the pleasure of getting to know frank and barb over the last year or so and i know for a fact that frank's story would not be on jwn and freeminds if he hadn't been disfellowshipped.

DNCall

I forgot to thank Besty and the posters on this thread for their excellent insights.

F.