Heya, how the hell are you! Nice to finally meet you!
Hello there I am doing fine thank you. We will meet in the Kingdom, but for now I am happy to meet you within this forum.
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
Heya, how the hell are you! Nice to finally meet you!
Hello there I am doing fine thank you. We will meet in the Kingdom, but for now I am happy to meet you within this forum.
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
That's it? No indoctrination of others? No trying to prove that a collection of stories and contradictory statements is divinely inspired? No address to which to send a cheque?
I'm almost disappointed.
The w.t.s. have built up a worldly organization, Jesus Christ is no part of this world. I live and breath in this world, however I live in the next one. My thoughts are in the new world waiting for this one to pass away. There are many many faiths built up in like manner to the w.t.s. They have been found worthy of many teachings such as the Kingdom of God. They hold many truths but the path they follow as the so called F.D.S. (class) is not until the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ. None of them are set up to judge anyone upon this earth. I am being prepared for the thousand year reign where I will apply all that I have learned. I had to experience these last days first hand unlike no other man upon the planet earth.
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
What the hell? You can't do any worse at predicting the future than they can! Welcome, new FDS!
JK
Thank you JK,
I was not sent to anyone to predict the future. The prophets have already put into place what was to occur in prophecy. I have posted writings and blogs that do foretell what is to occur which are not written in the bible. This was in order to build my faith, and also to give a few signs to those that follow the writings. Jesus Christ provided miracles, I provide some signs, and also provide understanding into what is written. I provided food at the proper time to those that were chosen. The signs are also to make me aware of the time and the season we are in.when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
jwblog,
You've convinced me. So what do I do now?
(I can't believe I missed that some were fulfilled invisibly in heaven - there I was looking in completely the wrong place!)
No worries, it is hard to see things that are invisible :) You should see some of the things that I do my goodness ! ! ! Pretty amazing visions I tell you. Preserve yourself alive until Jesus Christ arrives in all of his glory and his angel with him.Count your blessings and pray for those that are having to endure the great tribulation in the Middle East. That is where there are earth quakes, food shortages, famines, pestilences, floods, and wars where people are killing one another. Weap along with those in the heavens. myself, and those whose hearts are tormented from all of the pain and suffering they are witness to. Imagine their pain and pray to your God to hurry please and bring the suffering to an end. It is written, there will be a hurrying of it.
how many on this board has had to have one?
if you did were you still a member in good standing?
if you were now faced with a situation would you have one for you or your wife and kids?
How many on this board has had to have one? If you did were you still a member in good standing? If you were now faced with a situation would you have one for you or your wife and kids? About 6 years ago while traveling in Spain I had to have an emergency operation I had to have a blood transfusion, although I was never asked if I wanted one or even know before hand, it saved my life. When asked by my JW family if I had to have one I said yes or else I wouldn't be here today.
I have had a blood transfusion and thought about not taking one but could not prove that God condemed it. The bible says do not eat the blood but was it not in reference to eating animals blood? Are they not going beyond what is written and putting unnecessary and harmful if not fatal requirements on the people in the congregation?
Jesus Christ died once and for all; for our sins, therefore no one else has to die. The death in sacrifice will be noticed by God for those that thought it to be law and their faith will be rewarded, however your Heavenly Father prefers that you preserve yourselves alive. Death brings to much pain and agony on the person, as well as those that are surviving. No one wants their loved ones to die so by all means accept the blood and continue living.the reason why i ask is because whenever u are df and u are trying to get reinstated they are always tellling u that u have to produce fruits befitting repentenace like attending the meetings,etc.
they always make it seem that since they are gods spirit-directed org.
that he will know whether or not if a person is repentent.
i know of a case of a girl in my former congregation who has been DF 3 or 4 times (in fact she is Df now) who was going to the meeting. she never missed one and everyone including the elders thought she was so repentent. well guess what? she was still doing all the things she was doing when she got DF. she hadnt really changed at all. the elders felt she showed repentence and reinstated her. my question is how are they able to determine that? can they read peoples hearts. this girl was faking repentence the entire time she was trying to get reinstated. i know the elders in my former congregation DF who they wanted and reinstated who they wanted. i know of many cases where some were struggling with alcholism like my mom and they basically treated her as if she was a criminial and took all her privileges away like pioneering and she had only fallen off the wagon that one time. she never was the same. she started going downhill ever since.they thought she could just get over her problem i guess. what i dont get is there can be 2 people doing the same thing like fornicating,committing adultery, smoking or whatever and they get DF. if both are trying to get reinstated one may get reinstated in 6 months and the other may be 1 year. what gives? how do they know if a person is truly repentant and not faking it just to get reinstated. thats why i dont understand the DF arrangement. supposely its to keep the congregation "clean". really can an imperfect man, elder in this case tell whether or not someone is involved in wrongdoing? what determines the length of time that a person has to serve in order to get reinstated? and how do they know people
Please weigh this out in your heart and your mind. What you just posted is evidence that they have no idea who is, or who is not repentant. If one that is a so-called elder is making an attempt to lead the congregation and he is found guilty of misconduct by his fellow men, then he should not be allowed to teach. This is because an elder must give a worthy example to the flock otherwise his words hold no weight.
Who gave those in the congregation assigned to lead the flock permission to judge the people that are there to learn? If a person sins against another among the flock let them have the opportunity to forgive before they present their offering to God. It is the law to forgive if one is repentant. If it is a small quarrel it is mandatory to find remedy. If it is a sin as fornication or adultery, it is between the male and female and no one else. If a mate chooses to forgive, then the other mate is forgiven by God as well. If the mate is deceitful against the other then it is for God to straighten out their course. The one that decieves is truly not repentant.
People are at a congregation for a reason, so they can better their lives. Not everyone is perfect, and the law states do not judge one another. If a person that has a weakness sexually and is attending in order to find strength, then help them along and teach them if possible how to remain strong. It is commanded that you should confess your sins to one another. This means that you confess to the one you sinned against, not the entire congregation, and especially not one called an elder. If two people choose to approach an elder in order to ask for assistance, it then becomes their right to be informed.
Jesus Christ mingled with the sinners because they were in need of assistance. One who is strong can manage, one who is weak needs a helping hand. If a person is afflicted with too much alcohol consumption they are in need of assistance. Help a lazy man not to be lazy man anymore so that he can eat. Help a fornicator understand what problems their acts might cause. Help a man weak in the flesh understand that being weak is not a wise course. Put up with one another and love one another.
No person has the right to judge another, it is written. Forgive willingly those that are truly repentant, and bring yourselves comfort in the heart. Because love helps to make one another stronger, and helps many to endure until Jesus arrives in his full glory. The practice of removing one from the congregation stands only for those that are taking the lead and setting an example for the rest. Extend love to those that are there to learn, and do not cause them pain and suffering.
The faithful and discreet slave (by their fruits you will recognize them)
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
In the last 2 days alone in the DFW area, 3 men who "arrived like a thief in the night" have been shot dead by homeowners. JC better be careful. That's in Texas, but, they've got plenty of AK-47's in the Middle East. Besides...wasn't he supposed to "split the eastern sky"? And, "...every eye will see him?" And, I'm feeling much better, now that I am agnostic. Rabbit
No worries JC is immense and nothing can cause him harm. Jesus Christ arrived at the fullfillment of the prophecies or unseen. It is very similar to what the society teaches however the time that Christ took the throne was not then. It occurred at September 11, 2001. Don't you recall what I have posted here? The other signs were the great floods in the east and west. The tsunami and also hurricane Katrina. These floods made history. A fulfillment occurs at a major historical event. Jesus Christ arrived unseen. That is the meaning of the strong man, Christ came unnoticed except for those that were not fooled and recognized the fulfillments. I was chosen shortly thereafter and that is when my journey begin.
Every eye will see the clouds coming across the sky and be filled with holy spirit. God will place all of Christs enemies at his footstool (all of the military forces etc.) and The Good News of The Kingdom will be preached.
Make sense mr agnostic?
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
by following the chronology of the bible, most believers place the date of the biblical flood circa 2380 or so?
but there are bristlecone pine trees still alive at over 5000 years old.
my questions to you are these:
1: are these trees magical?
2: if no, then why did god spare them?
3: is it possible to screw up counting tree rings +/- 700 years?
If you read the account in Genesis you will notice that God created the heavens and the earth. In order to understand what was then you have to look at what is now. The bible says that God rested on the seventh day. It does not say that man came to be at the very beginning when the earth was created. Do you think that God is resting while the creations that He loves are being tormented day and night?
Was God at rest when He caused Jesus to be born? Jesus Christ is the lord of the sabbath, the king in the thousand year reign. Therefore God created the heavens and the earth in six thousand years, rested on the seventh day, then place man upon the earth. We are close to the end of six thousand years upon this planet.
God did not destroy all of creation that existed upon the planet earth. Only those that breathed and were found unworthy perished. Have no worries or doubt about your future. God is here taking over as we speak and Jesus is bringing peace to the earth. Man cannot accomplish this, therefore this world will end in war; meaning that nations will still be at war. And also while the beast is still alive he is put into prison along with those beasts of the field trampling upon the holy land set aside for Abraham.
Estephan
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
Ah! Like a persistent case of herpes, Stevie Brown the insane liar has returned. A new username (of course) but spouting the same nonsense as always. Presumably he's under the delusion (one of many) that if he picks a different username nobody will remember all the false predictions he made in the past. But of course his unintentionally hilarious style of posting gives him away. It seems that he tries to start off with something vaguely sensible but after only a handful of posts he simply can't help claiming that he's the faithful and discreet slave (and Muhammad, on at least one occasion). For those not familiar with his modus operandi, it usually ends with him making a specific concrete prediction about a date in the near future and then disappearing. Without exception, these predictions fail (as they are after all, the delusions of a deeply deeply disturbed individual) and when Stevie returns with a new username he ignores any mention of them. Sometimes he rants and raves impotently at those who point out his repeated pattern of deception but ultimately he's just a harmless nutter, a little like JCanon but not as intelligent or entertaining.
For those who don't remember him, just check out his previous posts under the following usernames: Brownboy, TruthorLie, EliJah, TheWord and probably a few more.
Hey if it isn't my flunkie derelict how are you? I don't recall truthorlie I guess I have to look back. Nah, not important. I take it you still have not read the postings, otherwise you would have seen that they all came to pass. Some were invisible in the heavens so you could not see it with your eyes. I post what I am told to post even as we speak. Nothing is of my own accord. What did you expect the faithful slave to be like? The slave is a replica or a parallel to the Christ. I am not worthy of the Christ in the sense that he is greater than I. However I know the Christ but not as much as I know the Father. The Father has raised us all. Hidden from the face of the serpent was the beginning, then the battle begin. Truly I say to you it is very difficult. It is like having someone walking behind you nudging you with anger constantly. You know like a coward bully but mighty strong. That is satan pure evil.
Estephanwhen i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
Hey what's up my bro :) Estephan Leche here. They be girded not hangin. I am the Alpha and the Omega. the beginning and the end. My beginning has to be similar in the end. Do you realize why the bible is so hard to understand? It is because The Almighty has to make it so His spirit creations cannot understand the meaning. Why? If I told you I was coming to eat at your place at 7:00 P.M. you would be expecting me. If I arrived without telling you, you would be surprised. If it was my intent to surprise you then you felt the emotion that I wanted you to feel. Therefore no one knows the day nor the hour. Many of the trials we have to be witness to come to us unexpectedly in order so that we know what the true emotion is, make sense? While you were sleeping Jesus Christ arrived like a thief in the night. Didn't you notice? How are you by the way? EstephanFunkyDerek, ya' beat me to it ! I only read the first page today, recognized Brownboy and came to page 5 to say:
Hey, Brownboy, how are they hanging ?
'Prince' Rabbit