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How do the elders know if you are truly repentent?

by jetery in

the reason why i ask is because whenever u are df and u are trying to get reinstated they are always tellling u that u have to produce fruits befitting repentenace like attending the meetings,etc.

they always make it seem that since they are gods spirit-directed org.

that he will know whether or not if a person is repentent.

jwblog

i know of a case of a girl in my former congregation who has been DF 3 or 4 times (in fact she is Df now) who was going to the meeting. she never missed one and everyone including the elders thought she was so repentent. well guess what? she was still doing all the things she was doing when she got DF. she hadnt really changed at all. the elders felt she showed repentence and reinstated her. my question is how are they able to determine that? can they read peoples hearts. this girl was faking repentence the entire time she was trying to get reinstated. i know the elders in my former congregation DF who they wanted and reinstated who they wanted. i know of many cases where some were struggling with alcholism like my mom and they basically treated her as if she was a criminial and took all her privileges away like pioneering and she had only fallen off the wagon that one time. she never was the same. she started going downhill ever since.they thought she could just get over her problem i guess. what i dont get is there can be 2 people doing the same thing like fornicating,committing adultery, smoking or whatever and they get DF. if both are trying to get reinstated one may get reinstated in 6 months and the other may be 1 year. what gives? how do they know if a person is truly repentant and not faking it just to get reinstated. thats why i dont understand the DF arrangement. supposely its to keep the congregation "clean". really can an imperfect man, elder in this case tell whether or not someone is involved in wrongdoing? what determines the length of time that a person has to serve in order to get reinstated? and how do they know people

Please weigh this out in your heart and your mind. What you just posted is evidence that they have no idea who is, or who is not repentant. If one that is a so-called elder is making an attempt to lead the congregation and he is found guilty of misconduct by his fellow men, then he should not be allowed to teach. This is because an elder must give a worthy example to the flock otherwise his words hold no weight.

Who gave those in the congregation assigned to lead the flock permission to judge the people that are there to learn? If a person sins against another among the flock let them have the opportunity to forgive before they present their offering to God. It is the law to forgive if one is repentant. If it is a small quarrel it is mandatory to find remedy. If it is a sin as fornication or adultery, it is between the male and female and no one else. If a mate chooses to forgive, then the other mate is forgiven by God as well. If the mate is deceitful against the other then it is for God to straighten out their course. The one that decieves is truly not repentant.

People are at a congregation for a reason, so they can better their lives. Not everyone is perfect, and the law states do not judge one another. If a person that has a weakness sexually and is attending in order to find strength, then help them along and teach them if possible how to remain strong. It is commanded that you should confess your sins to one another. This means that you confess to the one you sinned against, not the entire congregation, and especially not one called an elder. If two people choose to approach an elder in order to ask for assistance, it then becomes their right to be informed.

Jesus Christ mingled with the sinners because they were in need of assistance. One who is strong can manage, one who is weak needs a helping hand. If a person is afflicted with too much alcohol consumption they are in need of assistance. Help a lazy man not to be lazy man anymore so that he can eat. Help a fornicator understand what problems their acts might cause. Help a man weak in the flesh understand that being weak is not a wise course. Put up with one another and love one another.

No person has the right to judge another, it is written. Forgive willingly those that are truly repentant, and bring yourselves comfort in the heart. Because love helps to make one another stronger, and helps many to endure until Jesus arrives in his full glory. The practice of removing one from the congregation stands only for those that are taking the lead and setting an example for the rest. Extend love to those that are there to learn, and do not cause them pain and suffering.

The faithful and discreet slave (by their fruits you will recognize them)

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

In the last 2 days alone in the DFW area, 3 men who "arrived like a thief in the night" have been shot dead by homeowners. JC better be careful. That's in Texas, but, they've got plenty of AK-47's in the Middle East. Besides...wasn't he supposed to "split the eastern sky"? And, "...every eye will see him?" And, I'm feeling much better, now that I am agnostic. Rabbit

No worries JC is immense and nothing can cause him harm. Jesus Christ arrived at the fullfillment of the prophecies or unseen. It is very similar to what the society teaches however the time that Christ took the throne was not then. It occurred at September 11, 2001. Don't you recall what I have posted here? The other signs were the great floods in the east and west. The tsunami and also hurricane Katrina. These floods made history. A fulfillment occurs at a major historical event. Jesus Christ arrived unseen. That is the meaning of the strong man, Christ came unnoticed except for those that were not fooled and recognized the fulfillments. I was chosen shortly thereafter and that is when my journey begin.

Every eye will see the clouds coming across the sky and be filled with holy spirit. God will place all of Christs enemies at his footstool (all of the military forces etc.) and The Good News of The Kingdom will be preached.

Make sense mr agnostic?

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

by following the chronology of the bible, most believers place the date of the biblical flood circa 2380 or so?
but there are bristlecone pine trees still alive at over 5000 years old.
my questions to you are these:
1: are these trees magical?
2: if no, then why did god spare them?
3: is it possible to screw up counting tree rings +/- 700 years?

If you read the account in Genesis you will notice that God created the heavens and the earth. In order to understand what was then you have to look at what is now. The bible says that God rested on the seventh day. It does not say that man came to be at the very beginning when the earth was created. Do you think that God is resting while the creations that He loves are being tormented day and night?

Was God at rest when He caused Jesus to be born? Jesus Christ is the lord of the sabbath, the king in the thousand year reign. Therefore God created the heavens and the earth in six thousand years, rested on the seventh day, then place man upon the earth. We are close to the end of six thousand years upon this planet.

God did not destroy all of creation that existed upon the planet earth. Only those that breathed and were found unworthy perished. Have no worries or doubt about your future. God is here taking over as we speak and Jesus is bringing peace to the earth. Man cannot accomplish this, therefore this world will end in war; meaning that nations will still be at war. And also while the beast is still alive he is put into prison along with those beasts of the field trampling upon the holy land set aside for Abraham.

Estephan

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

Ah! Like a persistent case of herpes, Stevie Brown the insane liar has returned. A new username (of course) but spouting the same nonsense as always. Presumably he's under the delusion (one of many) that if he picks a different username nobody will remember all the false predictions he made in the past. But of course his unintentionally hilarious style of posting gives him away. It seems that he tries to start off with something vaguely sensible but after only a handful of posts he simply can't help claiming that he's the faithful and discreet slave (and Muhammad, on at least one occasion). For those not familiar with his modus operandi, it usually ends with him making a specific concrete prediction about a date in the near future and then disappearing. Without exception, these predictions fail (as they are after all, the delusions of a deeply deeply disturbed individual) and when Stevie returns with a new username he ignores any mention of them. Sometimes he rants and raves impotently at those who point out his repeated pattern of deception but ultimately he's just a harmless nutter, a little like JCanon but not as intelligent or entertaining.
For those who don't remember him, just check out his previous posts under the following usernames: Brownboy, TruthorLie, EliJah, TheWord and probably a few more.

Hey if it isn't my flunkie derelict how are you? I don't recall truthorlie I guess I have to look back. Nah, not important. I take it you still have not read the postings, otherwise you would have seen that they all came to pass. Some were invisible in the heavens so you could not see it with your eyes. I post what I am told to post even as we speak. Nothing is of my own accord. What did you expect the faithful slave to be like? The slave is a replica or a parallel to the Christ. I am not worthy of the Christ in the sense that he is greater than I. However I know the Christ but not as much as I know the Father. The Father has raised us all. Hidden from the face of the serpent was the beginning, then the battle begin. Truly I say to you it is very difficult. It is like having someone walking behind you nudging you with anger constantly. You know like a coward bully but mighty strong. That is satan pure evil.

Estephan

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

FunkyDerek, ya' beat me to it ! I only read the first page today, recognized Brownboy and came to page 5 to say:
Hey, Brownboy, how are they hanging ?
'Prince' Rabbit

Hey what's up my bro :) Estephan Leche here. They be girded not hangin. I am the Alpha and the Omega. the beginning and the end. My beginning has to be similar in the end. Do you realize why the bible is so hard to understand? It is because The Almighty has to make it so His spirit creations cannot understand the meaning. Why? If I told you I was coming to eat at your place at 7:00 P.M. you would be expecting me. If I arrived without telling you, you would be surprised. If it was my intent to surprise you then you felt the emotion that I wanted you to feel. Therefore no one knows the day nor the hour. Many of the trials we have to be witness to come to us unexpectedly in order so that we know what the true emotion is, make sense? While you were sleeping Jesus Christ arrived like a thief in the night. Didn't you notice? How are you by the way? Estephan

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Who owns the large amount of w.t.s. real estate?

by jwblog in

are they the relatives of the former founders of the w.t.s.

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jwblog

Are they the relatives of the former founders of the w.t.s.?

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Watchtower Investments.

by gumby in

hello my dear brothers and sisters, gumby here.. here's a good read about jehovah's loving organisation.. http://www.geocities.com/wtgreed/article.htm.

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gumbastard.

jwblog

Who owns the worldwide kingdom halls (real estate)? Are they relatives of the former founders of the w.t.s.?

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

Lets just say, I don't think you've gained any brownie points with anyone!
To each his own,
cheers!
Hope4others

Cheers to you also :) I love you very much

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

Dude you aint the faithful and discreet slave.
God may seem like he does nothing but doesnt he have to right to? He told adam and eve to not touch the tree. They did. He again and again tried to instruct people in how to live. Some listen and some do not. If people dont wanna listen to his side of the story, which can be found by reading the bible, then thats there problem. Even Gandi said if people followed Christs example then this world would be pretty peaceful. The whole reason he does not do much is because he is letting man rule himself to prove that man is an idiotic creation who needs his help. Sure its sad innocent blood is shead but they get the resserection. The whole issue is that man has to come to the grim conclusion that we cant rule ourselves. God is just giving man his 20c worth

Yes I am.......

18 A prophet I shall raise up for them from the midst of their brothers, like you; and I shall indeed put my words in his mouth, and he will certainly speak to them all that I shall command him.

22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.’

8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially; 10 but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will be done away with.

I have received the gift of prophecy (Partial as written) as many others have in the end times. I am witness to dreams coming true from those that I was led to. I am witness to inspirations coming true through words written also.

However I am also the faithful and discreet slave. Without fail The Kingdom of God will take over in your lifetime and in mine. Many living today will never die.......AMEN ! ! !

The Following Postings foretold Hurricane Katrina and the Tsunami

25-Oct-04 16:28

Put full and complete faith in Jehovah, and sound out the warning to others. Seek refuge in smaller towns, and prepare for disasters..........may God be with us all.

31-Oct-04 18:54

These verses in Revelations, chapters 18 have a very important message hidden within. New York is an area noted for gambling (Atlantic City etc.), and appropriately, a clue is given in the following verse. The bible refers to a Queen of Hearts face up with six additional cards dealt face down.

7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.

wid·ow ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wd) n.

An additional hand of cards dealt face down in some card games, to be used by the highest bidder. Also called kitty1.

10-Nov-04 17:07

You have been granted to view the inner workings of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The Faithful and Discreet Slave

It is my belief that the Queens area of New York will be flooded.

37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

6 And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said: Praise Jah, YOU people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king

This portion foretold the falling away of the many witnesses

I believe this scripture makes reference to the brothers that provide the valuable information.

23 and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again;

The Kingdom of God

Please have an understanding. Christ will arrive out of the Middle East in the clouds of a storm. [Tsunami] [son am i]

27 For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 28 Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

The clouds of a storm will accomplish the following. The stars are snow flakes will fall from heaven. (the need for warm clothing and provisions)

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. The following scripture denotes the sign of the sun. (morning)

30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. I need to caution you will the following scriptures:

45 Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.

48 But if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, My master is delaying, 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where weeping and the gnashing of teeth will be.

Please weigh this information out in your hearts, and stay away from your thinking ability. Satan will mislead you by your thoughts. Pray repeatedly as Satan will fight to mislead you. Jehovah will tell you if any portion of my writing is from Satan.

My thoughts and prayers are with you,

The Faithful and Discreet Slave

Those that follow the truth also follow the lamb wherever he goes. You have been found worthy and will recieve many wonderful blessings at the arrival of Jesus Christ in the clouds as written.......AMEN.......

The faithful and discreet slave of The Almighty GOD, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, and of Jesus Christ Amen.......

Estephan Leuese

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

jwblog

Will this never end??
Cynisist

Yes it will, it will be replaced by the messages from God and Christ as they make their way across the sky hidden in the clouds from the East to the West.......have a great night.