jwblog, Rev 12 talks about 9/11 attacks???
Yes it does I will follow up on this at another time. Revelation talks about a wild beast that misled the nations. Who might that be? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24848910/
in god s holy word the bible you can find evidence that god s kingdom was not established in 1914. and according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future.
and we can not calculate the time point.
in acts 1:7 the apostles asked " lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
jwblog, Rev 12 talks about 9/11 attacks???
Yes it does I will follow up on this at another time. Revelation talks about a wild beast that misled the nations. Who might that be? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24848910/
is there just one shred of evidence that proves beyond any doubt that jesus appointed the leaders of the jw's (c.t.
russell, j.f rutrherford, nathan knorr, or the governing body) as the faithful slave?
I'd have to say I'm a little puzzled why a JW is here posting on the biggest Apostate site against JWS on the net.
You keep on reiterating that you yourself are one of the very special faithful slaves but do you not know that you are part of and support
a corruptly devised publishing company called WTS, they have nothing to do with God at all or his purpose for mankind.
They have cunningly devised this kingdom for themselves but use God's name to fool people to support them.
I guess it wasn't so bad though a lot of power was gained and a lot of money was made.
I was born into this scam but fortunately left when I grew up and found The Truth.
Hang around for awhile JWBLOG you might learn a thing or two.
Who is a JW me? jwblog means that I am posting blogs on J.W..com is all it means. Jesus Christ did not even use the name Jehovah and I learned the reasoning behind it. By using God, The Almighty, The Heavenly Father etc. it unifies all beliefs because it holds to not a single name that causes divisions. I am no part of the w.t.s. but post here because they carry a title that rightfully belongs to me. I was a part of the organization at one point and they do hold true to many good teachings but they are not who they claim to be.
In fact they expect or preach that what has already happened to those in the Middle East is going to happen to them. They are not any part of the 144000 but only those of the blood offspring of Abraham are, make any sense? Have a good night I have to lay my head to rest now.......
in god s holy word the bible you can find evidence that god s kingdom was not established in 1914. and according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future.
and we can not calculate the time point.
in acts 1:7 the apostles asked " lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
In God´s holy word the bible you can find evidence that God´s Kingdom was not established in 1914. And according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future. And we can not calculate the time point. In Acts 1:7 the apostles asked " Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" And in the next verse he said to them: It does not belong to you to know times or appointed times which the Father has placed under his own authority. So, Jesus did not give any hope that we could calculate when God´s Kingdom will be established.
At the bookstudy we have also learnt about 3 woes, wich give more evidence that God´s kingdom is not yet established in heaven. We have learnt that we live in the time of the second woe, caused by the cavalry of two myriads of myriads. (Revelation 9:12-11:14) That is at the time when also the other sheep are spreading the kingdom message. This time period is quite long. This even causes a feeling of delay.( Revelation 10:6,7) The first woe brought locusts, wich symbolise anointed cristians in their symbolic 5 month preaching campain. But remark that according to the prophesy, the 3:rd woe comes with the establishement of the kingdom of God.( Revelation 11:14,15) After that the real catastrophy begins, the 3:rd woe. Satan will be hurled down to the earth.(Rev. chapter 12) That is, I believe the great tribulation before Armageddon.
Revelations chapter 12 describes the 911 attacks does it not?
is there just one shred of evidence that proves beyond any doubt that jesus appointed the leaders of the jw's (c.t.
russell, j.f rutrherford, nathan knorr, or the governing body) as the faithful slave?
Wouldn't it be better if you said that I had demons? After all that would be more inline with what they told Jesus. You parade around as Homer Simpson not even your true person. Are you fearful of people knowing who you are in case you might be ridiculed? Not a very courageous person are you? Anyway, tell Marge God said hi and also Ned Flanders he is faithful.......have a great nightRed Alert !!!! JWBLOG sounds like a real nut case
True human compassion doesn't need a godhead for direction or motivation, you should get to know some atheists just to prove my point.
Where are your humanistic values JWBLOG .......did you leave them at the Kingdom hall doors ?
we have allways heard someones calling them selves "discreet and faithfull slave"?
they say that jesus came in 1918 and approved them as discreet and faithful.
many of those were not yet born then, so could jesus have approved them before their birth?
We have allways heard someones calling them selves "discreet and faithfull slave"? But sometimes it has been hard to understand if they really are discreet and faithful. They say that Jesus came in 1918 and approved them as discreet and faithful. Many of those were not yet born then, so could Jesus have approved them before their birth? I do not believe that. Instead Jesus said that he that has endured to the end will be saved. (Matthew 24:13) I believe that Jesus has appointed slaves to give spiritual food to other sheeps. In fact all the anointed ones are His slaves. But not all of theese slaves serve well. That is why Jesus asks Who really is the faithful and discreet slave? When somebody becames anointed I understand, then he becames appointed to give spiritual food. And later when his Master arrives he will appoint him over all his belongings. When will this happen? I believe it will be shortly before Armageddon, when the finaly approved slaves get the kingdom.
You have some very good points of reason. In fact what you have stated to a degree is true. When Jesus Christ arrives he wages war so therefore the faithful slave is chosen before this occurs. However how can one be anointed unless there is someone present to anoint them? Jesus Christ sits upon his throne in the heavens and no other person will take seat upon a throne until the thousand year reign begins. The faithful slave is appointed only after the Kingdom of God takes rule. Otherwise who will the faithful slave reign as king over if there are still humanly goverments still in power? A king appointed by God is one that has authority and this will not occur until all other humanly goverments are placed under authority under God The Almighty. Truly I say to you, the true faithful and discreet slave is in your midst.......
is there just one shred of evidence that proves beyond any doubt that jesus appointed the leaders of the jw's (c.t.
russell, j.f rutrherford, nathan knorr, or the governing body) as the faithful slave?
Could you possibly give more details....come on who's the chosen ones
This is a true account of the people that have been chosen upon the earth and the type of life that they live. One is born with osteogenesis imperfecta and has endured many broken bones through her lifetime. Some are addicted to meth amphetamines, crack cocaine, are prositutes on the streets, have been nearly put to death by men who choose to inflict pain on them. Some are alcoholics, some have lived through cancer etc. etc.
The Almighty God chooses those that lifes experience will help to council others with the same type of afflictions.
This is a true account: Look over there please and see the women by the bus stop out in the cold. Please drive by and see if she is in need of assistance. I do as instructed and makemy way to the female. She is cold not dressed properly for the weather. She gets into my vehicle and begins to mumble. She seems to be going through some type of withdrawals from drug addiction. She then proceeds to lift her dress and makes an offering of of herself for a price. Apparently she is a prostitute. I decline the offer as we are there to assist her. I finally make sense of where she needs to be. She continues to make an offering as we finally make our way to her destination. I am instructed by my master to give her $20.00 dollars and to let her know that it is from Jesus Christ. She accepts the cash and immediately begins to cry in torment. She hugs me and walks away to her home still weeping along the way.
This is the work that the faithful slave is undergoing as well as engaging in battle with the wicked ones. I am led to those that can lend me their experience so that I can see the turmoil people have to endure, and we feel their affliction. This is how we are raised right before the king Jesus Christ arrives in all of his glory and all the nations will see him.......
is there just one shred of evidence that proves beyond any doubt that jesus appointed the leaders of the jw's (c.t.
russell, j.f rutrherford, nathan knorr, or the governing body) as the faithful slave?
Yahoo...I can hardly wait , its about time the real ones should be revealed
Could you possibly give more details....come on who's the chosen ones
You can tell us, will keep it a secret
Gee, I wonder which "One" he is
Please understand that the faithful slave recieves Jesus Christ's "belongings". Which is what, all of his authority as king upon the earth whereas Jesus Christ reigns from the heavens? Jesus Christ said himself that his kingdom is no part of this world. I wonder who will sit upon the throne of David upon the earth, afterall there was an earthly kingdom as well.
Where does it say that the faithful slave dies and joins Christ in the heavens? It looks like to me anyway that the slave is still alive when Jesus arrives. Am I revealing too many secrets?
is there just one shred of evidence that proves beyond any doubt that jesus appointed the leaders of the jw's (c.t.
russell, j.f rutrherford, nathan knorr, or the governing body) as the faithful slave?
It was just one of their many marketing ploys to gain power, kings in a kingdom as it were, and also to support the important selling of their literature.
You might look at it self promotion.
Lets be honest folks if money wasn't involved this organization wouldn't exist, it really is a business that has been disguising itself as an religion.
Well it worked......... unfortunately
Didn't is start off as "miracle wheat" or something like that? Hello Homer, this is God speaking. Hey if you can be Homer there is no reason I can not be God.
The fibble fabble that continues to come out of the mouths of those that claim to be the faithful and discreet slave will soon be revealed to all of the nations. The true faithful and discreet slave is in your midst.......i opened another thread with a similar title and thought it was going to be a discussion about belief in god but it wasn't.
so i started my own.. although i'm not sure of much at the moment (since i had my beliefs whipped out from under me like the floor under my feet) i feel fairly certain about one thing.
there is evidence of intelligent design and beauty in the universe and i don't logically think this is accidental.
Well I read what you posted but do not truly know what you mean. What is it you mean by "dogma" and "in spades"? If your eye is simple your whole body will be bright.I am very sympathetic to this position, and some days I feel exactly the same way.
Although in debates I most often take the neo-atheist side, this is mostly
because my real issue is with dogma, and people likely to be debating atheists
usually offer religious dogma in spades.That being the case however, I think your position is a wonderful one, and shows
a humility and sense of wonder that sometimes seems lost in the writings and
worldviews of hard-core "rationalists".
is there just one shred of evidence that proves beyond any doubt that jesus appointed the leaders of the jw's (c.t.
russell, j.f rutrherford, nathan knorr, or the governing body) as the faithful slave?
So you're using as 'evidence' an event for which there is no evidence? Now I understand
Please be a little more explanatory. I have no idea what you mean. I do not want to highjack this thread and please understand that I am not making an attempt to prove the w.t.s. is the faithful and discreet slave.
The F.D.S. comes to be when Jesus takes his throne and wars against those in the heavens. Revelations chapter 12 explains the war that takes place when satan is cast down to the vicinity of the earth. The powers of the heavens were shaken and like in the days of noah many floods would occur. Many signs around the world if you know where to look.
The nations will trample on the "holy land" which is where? The Middle East correct?