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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

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  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  It teaches ONE generation composed of overlapping groups within that generation.

  Which either way it still makes no logical sense since the people who lived and witnessed the events of 1914 including C Russell and J Rutherford died and anyone who was born around 1914 have also died, so how can a dead person be included and grouped into a collocation of a greater generation ?

  If one were to accept that a single generation is one single human life span of no more than 100 years, once you past a date time such as starting from 1914, that generation can not be included to any following generations.

  If you were to do that that would also mean any generations that lived prior to 1914 would also have to be included from an ideological concept.
  

  The WTS came up with a theological spin that has no relevance to intellectual honesty or either scriptural support from the bible.
  
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  " This Generation " spoken about by Jesus actually refers to the people who he was speaking to at the time, as he also said many of you will not experience death.

  The WTS. had arranged doctrines to support one another conceptually such as the year 1914 and this generation, to the final day of judgment Armageddon.
  

  Well nothing happen of course so the WTS heads (GB) had to created another false doctrine to cover over their previous false doctrine, this was the overlapping generation .

  The WTS supported itself upon bullshit theology it created as to create an acknowledged identity for themselves (FDSL) and help to proliferate the literature the organization published.

  .......they are still bullshitting to this day..... why ?

  Becasue that's how the organization was built and structured on.

  Why are there so many JWS not wanting to accept that they have been conned is very much to do with this organization's highly controlled cult aspect ?
  

  If one were to opening criticized the doctrines you could find yourself demonized, shunned, experience a total loss of friendship by other JWS members , including your own active family.
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  The JWS religion has been built up upon systematically concurrent lies.

  The WTS lured and coerced people to accept their lies but also spread these lies to the public via the literature the WTS published.

  Some will open their eyes and see that, some will not out of fear, ignorance and indoctrinated brainwashing.
  
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  Covid19 "Suggestions" (aka rules)

  by Huxley1979 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so a co just said in his talk yesterday that anyone that doesn't follow the branch's covid19 "suggestions" is disobedient and the type of person that won't survive armageddon.

  didn't the letter say that each head of household would choose for himself how to apply the "suggestions"?.

  the funny thing is there are other countries where none of these "suggestions" have been given..

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  Power corrupts , absolute power corrupts absolutely .

  A CO is an accepted recognized higher part of that structured power, that's why they will say things above what an ordinary lower powered elder would say.
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  There is always going to be people who are susceptible to fear mongering bullshit, particularly if you present that information with the established belief in the bible, its the word of god almighty after all.
  
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  I mean.... there is marine fossils on top of Everest.

  Yes but not just laying about on the surface but in strata layers which means these high elevations on Everest were once an ocean floor that were pushed up by the tectonic plates of the Earth's surface shifting upward creating the numerous mountain ranges which are seen today.
  

  Creationists like to twist these findings to support the ancient mythological story of Noah's flood.
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  For an organization that has been lying since the late 1800's, nothing would surprise me.
  
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  Insighful advice or mere speculation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. current

  i'm off to the supermarket to get some bumf.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeypy6oo0sq.

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  Disgruntled old man venting , some of things he says is true but he seems to think he knows what going to happen once the restrictions are lifted.
  

  One thing one can bet in the near incoming future is that most countries will go through a economic recession burgeoned with a huge tax bill on the end.
  
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  Notable Watchtower Quotations

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.

  of the watchtower leadership.

  “‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.

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  The "Power" game the WTS played out to the public is one of coercion, provocation of fear, exploitation and mind and mental manipulation, orchestrated by use of literature publishing .

  This one individual religoius organization/publishing house has killed thousands, broken apart millions of families and destroyed and wasted millions of lives, all for the sake of select few men playing we are god's chosen, be loyal and subservient to us if you want to survive Armageddon.
  
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  Notable Watchtower Quotations

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.

  of the watchtower leadership.

  “‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.

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  The JWS religion is truly a religion made up of lies, ignorance, deception, coercion and corruption.

  How can you tell and verify that ?
  

  Just read the articles it has written in many of its pieces of literature over the years.

  You dont have to go anywhere else.