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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  ...and that fact supports what ?
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  Things are too quiet at Warwick (Bethel)

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess it's the covid-19 thing.

  but very little news from a couple of people i know well there.

  they can't leave the "compound" or much of anything else.

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  Far as I know LHG there is no retirement fund for long time Bethel workers, so if they are removed they would probably look for hand outs from their families, that and hand outs from their local governments.

  The GB members and their wives on the other hand will always sit on and use the WTS's money for themselves that's for sure.
  

  Money is the life blood to this organization if you deeply look at it.
  
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  True Sea Breeze but does that have to do with the mythological story of Noah's flood ?

  The ancients told many stories of the select gods, some were made into pictographs onto temples of worship, its a fact in huamn history that is indisputable.

  Human ignorance is also a indefensible fact.
  
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  Things are too quiet at Warwick (Bethel)

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess it's the covid-19 thing.

  but very little news from a couple of people i know well there.

  they can't leave the "compound" or much of anything else.

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  Letter just recently given out at Wallkill Bethel HQ .......

  Brothers and sisters it has just recently come to the attention to the GB members that since the shutdown of are operations that many of are daily workers have been spending a lot of time in their rooms alone.

  Some have taken upon themselves to view pornography on their computers influencing these ones to masturbate using many things in their rooms including their bedroom pillows.

  Being that it is are responsibility to look after the righteous purity of are Bethel family, we are directing the room managers to remove all pillows in all sleeping rooms.

  This is to remove any temptation that may arise (no pun intended)

  The suggestion of using folding towels instead of pillows on the beds seems like a good idea.

  I hope you find this decision helpful in protecting your righteousness while staying at are worldwide Headquarters.

  Sincerely with brotherly love Anthony Morris
  
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  Things are too quiet at Warwick (Bethel)

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess it's the covid-19 thing.

  but very little news from a couple of people i know well there.

  they can't leave the "compound" or much of anything else.

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  Well they do have tennis courts there and swimming pools.

  The married couples will have lots of time to do some Rub A Dub.

  Single people will lots of time to get personally intimate with their pillows.
  
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  Things are too quiet at Warwick (Bethel)

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess it's the covid-19 thing.

  but very little news from a couple of people i know well there.

  they can't leave the "compound" or much of anything else.

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  Since they are living a Jah's chosen earthly compound they must have a sense of security and protection from the virus.
  
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  The Noah's flood story was told with the intent of creating power and relevance to the god of which these ancient people worshiped and associated themselves with.
  

  Another point to consider is that there is no archeological break in the distant civilizations that were in existence at the time of this supposed event, such as the Egyptian civilization.
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  It seems already that god's chosen appointed ones the JWorg (GB) have been making an strenuous amount of set dates going back to the late 1800's. In reflection of that these men would be very cautious now to repeat or put forward any new dates.

  They did not long ago with the overlapping generation dating.

  If they know what they are doing still lures people to them in supportive numbers, why would they pushed to fix what they know still works ?

  If the lies work then let the lies be in other words.
  
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  It teaches ONE generation composed of overlapping groups within that generation.

  Which either way it still makes no logical sense since the people who lived and witnessed the events of 1914 including C Russell and J Rutherford died and anyone who was born around 1914 have also died, so how can a dead person be included and grouped into a collocation of a greater generation ?

  If one were to accept that a single generation is one single human life span of no more than 100 years, once you past a date time such as starting from 1914, that generation can not be included to any following generations.

  If you were to do that that would also mean any generations that lived prior to 1914 would also have to be included from an ideological concept.
  

  The WTS came up with a theological spin that has no relevance to intellectual honesty or either scriptural support from the bible.
  
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  " This Generation " spoken about by Jesus actually refers to the people who he was speaking to at the time, as he also said many of you will not experience death.

  The WTS. had arranged doctrines to support one another conceptually such as the year 1914 and this generation, to the final day of judgment Armageddon.
  

  Well nothing happen of course so the WTS heads (GB) had to created another false doctrine to cover over their previous false doctrine, this was the overlapping generation .

  The WTS supported itself upon bullshit theology it created as to create an acknowledged identity for themselves (FDSL) and help to proliferate the literature the organization published.

  .......they are still bullshitting to this day..... why ?

  Becasue that's how the organization was built and structured on.

  Why are there so many JWS not wanting to accept that they have been conned is very much to do with this organization's highly controlled cult aspect ?
  

  If one were to opening criticized the doctrines you could find yourself demonized, shunned, experience a total loss of friendship by other JWS members , including your own active family.