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Dispelling Myths: 1914 Expectations

by AuldSoul in

jehovah's witnesses currently teach that prior to 1914 no one could have predicted what happened in europe in 1914. they teach that the world was heading toward such idyllic stability that the events of 1914 caught everyone off-guard.

so surprised were the people of the time that they looked back with fondness at the calm preceding 1914 as a time that could never be gone back to.. what were the bible students teaching about 1914 prior to that year?

in what capacity did they claim to be teaching?.

Bring_the_Light

THANKS GOOGLE!

Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Here's the New World Translation, straight off the Watchtower website:

20 “‘However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: “How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?” 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.’

As you can plainly see in Deu 18:20, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is totally F-d'.

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Dispelling Myths: 1914 Expectations

by AuldSoul in

jehovah's witnesses currently teach that prior to 1914 no one could have predicted what happened in europe in 1914. they teach that the world was heading toward such idyllic stability that the events of 1914 caught everyone off-guard.

so surprised were the people of the time that they looked back with fondness at the calm preceding 1914 as a time that could never be gone back to.. what were the bible students teaching about 1914 prior to that year?

in what capacity did they claim to be teaching?.

Bring_the_Light

Dearest OBVES,

Pray tell, how did Jesus respond when his faithful apostles asked "How shall we know false prophets?"

(If one of the Apostically inclined who actually are interested enough to research the bible could chime in with a Book/Chapter/verse my lazy, "don't need more info to know its crap" ass would appreciate it. Thx)

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Job lost everything and still praised God???? Would you?

by Witness 007 in

so jehovah and satan are in vegas and decide to place "a bet" that loyal servant job would still be faithful if he lost his money, family, wife's respect and health....and yes, he still praises jehovah!

is this logical?

if god arranged for your family to be killed and destroyed your health and finances would you say:"thank you sir can i have another!

Bring_the_Light

That isn't the least of it. The way I figure it, I owe god the depreciated value of a 6,000-year-old-apple. He's charged me more than I owe, therefore I ain't payin'. Let the f-er take it to court.

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Just Confirmed

by imissmaine in

jw
friends

that today is sunday!

happy sunday everyone!

Bring_the_Light

Ahh, the Lords day, the day of rest, the Sabbath, the day off for the sole purpose of ensuring nobody has an excuse not to go get their mind control. F-Sunday, I think we should get 52 extra Paid Time Off (PTO) days to use at our discretion, and do away with this oppression.

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Won't the "Big" Announcement be made BEFORE Sunday April 27

by RubaDub in

everyone keeps mentioning about the sunday april 27 date as "the" date.. however, in many cities that have multiple congregations in the same kh, there are meetings on saturdays also.. in our kh (and many others locally) there are 5 congregations in the kh.

three congregations have their meetings on sunday and two on saturday,.

so unless the instructions are such that the letter can't be read before april 27, it should very well be public on saturday (actually friday if you take into consideration countries in earlier time zones).. rub a dub.

Bring_the_Light

WELL?WELL?WELL? Is somebody going to report on this, or do I need to run out and catch and afternoon meeting???

*ANTICIPATION BUILDING*

Somebody tell me before I cream my pants!!!!

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The inventions that they come up with! Look at this computer mouse (fluff)

by MsMcDucket in

now why didn't i think of that!.

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/04/index.html.

Bring_the_Light

Anyone notice they have "new" Tom&Jerry cartoons on TV? Well one of them involved Tom using Jerry as a "mouse". I thought it was hilarious.

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So far..............No Evidence

by Warlock in

#article { width: 665px; } .

sweep of polygamists' kids raises legal questions.

email this story.

Bring_the_Light

Yep, unconstitutional.

As much as i love cult-crashing, I firmly believe that the freeing of minds and torment of the religious should be done only within the constraints of the Constitution and the Laws of the United States.

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Jw upbringing and retarded social growth.

by AK - Jeff in

i was raised a jw, by an inactive jw mom.

looking back, and reflection on my childhood, causes me to wonder.. i honestly did not miss the holidays, for example.

i never had them, so nothing was taken away in that regard.

Bring_the_Light

Another piece of "me-wisdom" that might be useful is real perspective comes from seeing everything. So, if you look at someone else and think they or their lives are perfect, its mostly because you are not involved/can't see. The more I poke around and meet different kinds of people, the more clear it has become that everyone is the same. Same insecurities, nobody "actually" holds onto a sense of being superior or secure for very long. Much of this is an illusion.

We Ex-JW's should keep in mind that just avoiding the JW madness doesn't mean there wouldn't have been "other" madness waiting for us. This is just one human experiences amongst many. (not forgiving JayDubyas here, just saying). I think the real answer involves avoiding illusions, trying to be true to eachother and sharing this experience of ignorance and insecurity with eachother.

If we were honest, rather than "teaching" our children things, we would say "welcome to the world, please help us, we don't know what to do, maybe you'll figure it out".

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Jw upbringing and retarded social growth.

by AK - Jeff in

i was raised a jw, by an inactive jw mom.

looking back, and reflection on my childhood, causes me to wonder.. i honestly did not miss the holidays, for example.

i never had them, so nothing was taken away in that regard.

Bring_the_Light

I can relate, but I actually think my being a JW helped my worldish social contacts. Becasue I was the only JW in my school I was pretty unique. Being the only sworn member of my cliche' it freed me to ally with any other cliche' without the inter-cliche' politics and negotiation normally involved. I was nobody and everybody, had real friends everywhere from druggies to nerds, to a few Pop Jocks. \

This notion that there are groups of well-adjusted, happy people who spend their lives never feeling uncertain, rejected or alone is pretty much an illusion. My favorite "me-wisdom" is if you really want to see mental illness and tradgedy, look into the mental lives of the happy and well-adjusted, they, when you look closely are the deeply sick ones.

I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us — don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know.

How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!

-Emily Dickenson

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If you hadn't ben a JW how would your life be different??

by karter in

jw
friends

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Bring_the_Light

I wouldn't have the virulent love of liberty or understand the human condition nearly as much as I do. Thank you JayDubyas! I will include your contributions to my development when I do my "part of this world" and time has come to write my memoirs.

If my big splash happens to include the destruction of this wicked cult, hey, won't that be ironic?

Bring_the_Light

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