what was it that moved your child to return to jehovah?
asks the speaker.. .
well it was the missed association with the family, says brenda sutton proudly and unflinchingly.. andd heres why, i had always told our kids... i would die for you, i love you, would die for you, but if you ever leave jehovah i wouldnt be there.
"How dumb are the G.B. to use this as a demonstration at a K.H. let alone an Assembly -Convention ?
Do these people even realize what they are saying ? The child was held to ransom by it`s parents." - Smiddy
I don't think that I could have worded that any better, Smiddy.
a month ago someone inquired about where the case against watchtower in otuo v watchtower was at currently.
firstly the claimant has brought two separate claims against the watchtower .
case 1 relates to a suit in slander premised on the words , "frank otuo is no longer a jehovah witness".
Thank you for sharing.
you think it's the holy spirit that appoints the elders, at least that's what new jw males are told.
the culture within the organization dictates to all young male jehovah's witnesses that unless you are an elder, you will not get the sultry, passionate- brunette, the voluptuous, curvaceous,- blond, or the seductive, erotic, red headed-vamp..
so unaware of the social forces that are shaping your mind, you succumb to the dictum issued by the governing body to conform to the structure already in place- if you want to be successful.
I always thought of reaching out as the JW male version of gymnastics.
He starts off with a run, does a somersault, then leaps straight up into the air, somersault in the air with a backward flip and a half twist, forward flip with double somersault and full twist, triple somersault with a backward flip, 1 1/2 twist with double somersault and backward flip, double somersault with half twist and backward flip, triple somersault with forward flip and 2 twists, etc, etc..........
I never qualified to be an elder as I didn't have the necessary plumbing equipment.
i guess the branch isn't happy with the amount being sent each month since we are way lower than our loan amount.
we now have to another financial survey to see the max amount that can be given.
it is "encouraged" for all to be in attendance and give much forethought and consideration to the amount you can donate each month.
LOL @ Billy the Ex-Bethelite.......I just noticed the serial numbers on the bank note
if we are in the congregation, do you think our comments or questions actually reach elders or others in the congregation?
do our comments on this board affect witnesses to the point of questioning their faith?
Lurked here for 5 years before registering as a member.
The legal and financial threads caught my attention.
earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.
- today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.
not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.
my local cong just donated all money (4k +) on deposit with you know who to, you know who.
"since the society forgave all kingdom hall loans the boe felt it only appropriate to forgive the society of our loan to them.
" is exactly how it was presented to the r&f.
i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.
i really cared about the people in the field.
i thought their lives were in danger.
Yes, I thought that they were just clearing out old stock.
And it felt odd to be expected to offer the very latest issues of the magazines each week and yet every so often, you would have to offer the older publications at the door.
i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!
but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.
i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).
Comment I have heard some of the elderly ones make:
"They've been telling us for years to "keep our life simple." Now its their turn."
