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  WATCHTOWER'S BLOOD DOCTRINE

  by hawkaw in

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  A Coldhearted and Hatefilled "Religion".

  by Sunspot in

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  http://www.randytv.com/hitler/document_a.htm

  this situation concerning the watchtower and hitler got me into a train of thought that i wanted to share here....

  when we think about it, this antisemetic behavior of wts foreshadowed a full-blown pattern of narrow-minded views of others, and how it has escalated into what we see in this hatefilled and controlling organization today.

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  I believe I have changed this to the "friends" area per your request "Sunspot".

  Take care.

  Hawk
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  Second Edition soon available!

  by morrisamb in

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  the second edition of father's touch will soon be out.

  i'm very happy with the new publisher.

  their mission is help prevent child abuse.

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  BTTT

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  Amish Abuse Case

  by Uzzah in

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  there are interesting parallels between this case and those involving the borg.

  it is a closed community wherein members are completely reliant on the community and risk shunning if too outspoken.

  women are also second class citizens within this community much like they are in the jw realm.. .

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  Appreciate the article and thanks!

  hawk
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  Second Edition soon available!

  by morrisamb in

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  2. child-abuse

  the second edition of father's touch will soon be out.

  i'm very happy with the new publisher.

  their mission is help prevent child abuse.

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  This is just .... oh ... WOW!!!

  Donald, Your the man!!!!

  I can still remember your help in that Toronto Sun article and when I was first getting CBC interested in the Canadian angle of this story.

  I don't know if you knew this or not ... but Brodie Fenlon has gone to work for Gerrard Kennedy in the Provincial legistature.

  Thanks for doing this. No doubt you have and will help a lot of survivors out there and will also help protect future little ones from being harmed.

  Well done and again thanks for all of your help,

  hawk
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  Jackson's Body Guards Charged - Pay Attention to this case!!!

  by Amazing1914 in

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  it was reported in the news on fox today that michael jackson's body guards, who were reportedly present at the time he allegedly molested young boys, have also been criminally charged by the police.

  this is very important, because these allegations go back to the early 1990s.

  so, if the law then and now holds ancillary parties responsible in a "criminal" charge, then one must wonder if the civil claims being made against the watchtower could also have criminal charges filed against the watchtower society and its chain of command.

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  In my mind, wrt the WTS leadership, it can't be aiding and abetting. That charge is used against person who actually help or assist the person commit the crime while it is in progress.
  

  I think if it is anything (and believe me I am not convicned), it would have to be that the leadership would be guilty of being "accessories after the fact" in the apparent crime (or apparent offence). In other words the leaders policies knowingly helped protect and hide the offender and allowed the offender to escape from the crime (or offence).

  Of course I am not aware of any investigation or charges being laid etc. by law enforcement against the WTS. Like I said before, it has been my experience that the FBI or the DOJ in the USA or other government agencies here in Canada would care less ... as they have a lot of other "priority" (their word not mine) work to do and I don't think law enforcement would give this type of case a "priority" investigation until someone wins a civil trial or two in the USA.

  But that's just me.

  A good attorney can give you an actual thought on this.
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  Blondie's Updates on Child Sexual Abuse Issues

  by blondie in

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  2. child-abuse

  a step foward in wisconsin re clergy reporting abuse...except most abuse is revealed in private conversations.

  statute of limitations increased.

  sidepoint, does the wts consider themselves "clergy"?

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  Thanks for posting this blonde.

  This was an important step for the JW abuse issue. I suspect few on this board will take note of its importance.

  What it did was help link the cause in JW land with other legitimate groups that share a common interest - protection to the kids and to hold people accountable for their actions. There is a load of experience to be shared by all these groups and intermiggling at these functions will help Silentlambs and the rest of the survivors out very well. This plays well with the recent annoucement of other legitimate groups directors coming on board to sit on the SL board of directors as well as Mr. Bowen sitting on their boards.

  Well done Bill!

  hawk
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  Jackson's Body Guards Charged - Pay Attention to this case!!!

  by Amazing1914 in

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  it was reported in the news on fox today that michael jackson's body guards, who were reportedly present at the time he allegedly molested young boys, have also been criminally charged by the police.

  this is very important, because these allegations go back to the early 1990s.

  so, if the law then and now holds ancillary parties responsible in a "criminal" charge, then one must wonder if the civil claims being made against the watchtower could also have criminal charges filed against the watchtower society and its chain of command.

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  I am well aware of the criminal legal angles, Jim, and so are others with a a legal background. However, the body guards actions are very obvious as they are being accused of being there at the time of the offence. Thus, I suspect mens rea should be easily proven as long as the jury is convinced a crime was committed.
  

  I could be wrong but I suspect the bodyguards would be charged with aiding and abetting in the apparent offence.

  Obviously Kim knows way more about this than little old me.

  However, with respect to the leadership in the WTS, the Police, if they decide to investigate, would have to use the leadership's own policies and directions to show that they and their agents (eg. elders and COs) were knowingly wreckless and in effect they were "accessories after the fact" in the crime (or offence) since they would have comforted or assisted the accused for the purpose of enabling that accused to escape the crime to keep the congregation "clean". I think this would be a tougher thing to prove but the one nice thing about the WTS is they love to leave a paper trail with more than one copy. What you will need is some very serious interest in the case by either a "U.S Attorney" who works for DOJ or a willingness at the FBI to conduct such an investigation. I have all the confidence in the world this will happen eventually as long as some of these civil cases move through the courts and nail the headquarters of the WTS as well as the congregations or elders.

  Take care,

  hawk
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  On CNBC,,,,PRINCE admits he is a JW....Did U believe he was?

  by LyinEyes in

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  i am watching prince talking to the reporter on cnbc, and she asked him if he is now one of jehovah's witnesses and he said......."yes".

  i have read things in magazines and newspaper articles but i really could not believe that he was an active witness.

  well, i guess i had to hear it with my own ears.

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  Oh how I would love these guys to come to my door so I can ask why they are allowed to take white blood cell transfusions in certain situations.

  hawk
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  Nevada limits parents right for Blood Transfusions

  by DevonMcBride in

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  http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/ap/ap_story.html/national/ap.v7282.ap-parental-rights.html

  nev. limits parent rights in medical care

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  The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses filed a friend-of-the-court brief that said it has no objections to conventional medicine, but follows verses in the Bible it says forbid transfusions.

  Nothing like coming on this board and the first thing I read has a "lie by omission" from the "Christan Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses". The JWs follow not just a bible verse. The leadership prescribes the use different aspects of the Bible (out of context), proven independent medicine information and proven scientific information (eg. blood component passing between mother and fetus) to determine which transfusions they forbid and which transfusions they allow.

  Enough said expect I wish the police would look into this more.

  hawk