BTTT for personal reasons
Posts by hawkaw
-
4New Light, 7-years-ago versus Today--Blood
by Marvin Shilmer innew light, 7-years-ago versus today--blood
seven years ago (1997) the wts taught jws not to use from blood of afterbirth.
specifically the wts wrote:w97 2/1 29 questions from readers:
-
-
-
35
BIG NEWS - Did I miss something ?
by wombat in"the doctrines importance will be underscored next week as elders who lead more than 98,000 congregations worldwide recite a new five-page blood directive from headquarters.
the doctrines importance will be underscored next week as elders who lead more than 98,000 congregations worldwide recite a new five-page blood directive from headquarters.".
i've seen nothing on this site since sunday regarding a "new five page directive from headquarters.. so what happened?
-
-
hawkaw
AuldSoul is absolutely right wrt to the AP article. The whole idea was to get Kerry and more important her information in the spot light.
And it worked. For the first time a major news media reported that JWs don't actually abstain from blood and took the JWs doctrine to task. Usually the media reports JWs abstain from blood and cite a bible passage. Not this time. Now the general public has got a good idea what is going on in WTS land and hopefully the AP article vaccinated a few million people from joining this club that promotes the needless premature death of countless people.
-
10
Merit of Non-Blood Medical Treatment
by billyboy inhow do posters feel about the physicians , doctors , surgeons and others giving their experiences and views in the societies videos and dvds?.
is the prevailing view that these are amateurs and/or stooges who do not represent mainstream medical opinion?
or do some posters feel that these clinicians maybe have some justification for their views?.
-
-
hawkaw
I think AJWRB summed the video clips up nicely in this newletter.
-
5
Scully!! A TRUE friend Thanks
by mouthy ini was having trouble getting on site.
cant live without checking on all my kids!!!
( even bad ones like gumby) so i e-mailed angie-( she e-mailed me back quickly) thanks ang!- & dear dear scully phoned me to help.... do you know how that makes me feel?????
-
-
hawkaw
You guys rock!
hawk
-
14
Draft Letter to Hospital Association over Kerry's Blood Article-Need Help!
by hawkaw ini am going to be signing it.
a copy will be going to cp as well as hook.
feel free to edit it.
-
-
hawkaw
Lisa,
I PMed you.
Later
hawk
-
14
Draft Letter to Hospital Association over Kerry's Blood Article-Need Help!
by hawkaw ini am going to be signing it.
a copy will be going to cp as well as hook.
feel free to edit it.
-
-
hawkaw
Thanks for your help!
-
14
Draft Letter to Hospital Association over Kerry's Blood Article-Need Help!
by hawkaw ini am going to be signing it.
a copy will be going to cp as well as hook.
feel free to edit it.
-
-
hawkaw
Okay I will drop it to a couple of points.
Thanks
-
14
Draft Letter to Hospital Association over Kerry's Blood Article-Need Help!
by hawkaw ini am going to be signing it.
a copy will be going to cp as well as hook.
feel free to edit it.
-
-
hawkaw
Due to formatting headaches, Kerry Louderback-Wood should go between Ms. and published in the fourth paragraph, line 1.
I have no idea why but I can't seem to edit it.
In any event I look forward to your comments.
-
14
Draft Letter to Hospital Association over Kerry's Blood Article-Need Help!
by hawkaw ini am going to be signing it.
a copy will be going to cp as well as hook.
feel free to edit it.
-
-
hawkaw
I am having some serious trouble formating this damn thing but hopfully you guys get the jist of this.
-
14
Draft Letter to Hospital Association over Kerry's Blood Article-Need Help!
by hawkaw ini am going to be signing it.
a copy will be going to cp as well as hook.
feel free to edit it.
-
-
hawkaw
Well I am hoping to send this draft letter (or a better one) to the Ontario Hospital Association next week and if a I get a good response from the Association I will send it with enclosures to a few other places. I am going to be signing it. A copy will be going to CP as well as hook. Feel free to edit it. Do any of you want to sign it? If you PM me, then next Monday I will contact you with my Email addy or if you know my Email address or you know a friend who knows my Email address please send me an Email and give me a jpg image of your signature. Also provide your City but not your address unlesss you want a reply. I will be using my home address and phone number at the top of the letter for a contact. I am using a questioning format and getting them to look at the issue. hawk
xxxxxxxxx DRAFT
Association
Attention: Hillary Short, President
Dear Ms. Short
Re: Blood Therapies for Jehovah’s Witnesses Patients in Your Member Hospitals and Apparent Misrepresentations _
We have been concerned over the unknown but likely countless deaths of Jehovah Witnesses who refused and continue to refuse life saving blood therapies in your member hospitals since 1945.
This past week the Jehovah’s Witnesses leadership (known as the and Bible Tract Society of Canada and the Christian Congregation of Jehovah Witnesses) released a letter to all of its Jehovah’s Witnesses congregations in regarding its Hospital Liaison Committees (enclosed).
The letter suggests that special Jehovah’s Witnesses called Hospital Liaison Committee (HLC) members advocate on behalf of Jehovah’s Witnesses (JWs) who may be in need of possible medical attention involving blood therapy. JWs scheduled for serious surgery or who have trauma should contact and use the HLC member when dealing with medical staff.
I have recently reviewed a December 2005 article by Ms. published in a law journal (enclosed). The article details an ever changing Jehovah’s Witnesses blood therapy ban and its apparent misrepresentations of secular medical, scientific and historical facts. I have also reviewed an article by the Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform of Blood (AJWRB) on a JW publication that addresses the medical use of blood, and, an article by Dr. Osamu (Sam) Muramoto M.D. who recognized that the Jehovah’s Witnesses leadership redefined guidelines for the use of blood products (both enclosed). The articles were featured in an Associated Press story last week that ran in the New York Times, Washington Post, Forbes Magazine et. al. (http://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/feeds/ap/2006/01/26/ap2479474.html).
-2-
DRAFT
The articles detail many misrepresentations of an ever changing blood ban policy. There is a possibly legal action could be taken against the leadership of the Jehovah’s Witnesses for misrepresenting secular facts or failing to disclose changes when the leadership or its agents should have known or should ought to have known about the changes. Further, the articles show Jehovah’s Witnesses apparently do not abstain from blood therapies and can accept many blood therapies without the fear of expulsion and shunning of family and friends.
This should lead one to asking many questions such as but not limited to the following:
- Why are the historical and medical publications being apparently misquoted?
- Why are the rates of risks on infectious diseases being misquoted as high when they are rare?
- Why are the rates of death from low blood counts being misquoted as unlikely when the medical information shows the likelihood is death or serous injury?
- Why is there a suggestion that Erythopoietin (used to develop red blood cells) will work quickly when it takes many weeks to produce any difference?
- Why are the rates of recovery from complicated surgery without blood therapy suggested to be higher than they actually are?
- Why does literature tell JWs to abstain from donor blood but in reality they are allowed to take one hundred percent donor blood in a fractionated form without the fear of excommunication, shunning and loss of salvation?
- Why allow so-called minute fractions of blood when in fact some of the approved fractions such as haemoglobin and albumin make up more of blood by weight than banned platelets?
- Why allow albumin on the basis that it transfers between two humans but not allow red blood cell therapies which also have been shown to transfer between two humans?
- Why forbid a patient's own stored blood yet permit components derived from large amounts of donated and stored blood?
- Why encourage vaccinations and serums that are made from blood fractions and a matter of conscience but not promote and discourage other blood therapies?
- Why allow organ transplants, which introduce far more foreign white blood cells than transfusions?
-3-
DRAFT
- Why allow the drinking of milk from mother to baby or of cow’s milk since there are foreign banned white blood cells in the milk?
- Why forbid plasma, which is mostly water, but allow the components in it that provide therapy? So what's the point of banning plasma?
- Why change an apparent abstention from blood at least some twenty times in the past few decades including the most recent change in 2000 with the allowance of haemoglobin?
Under the Canadian Charter, people can exercise a free conscience and religion as long as the belief is a honest belief and in good faith. As I have read through the documented apparent misrepresentations, policy changes and tort actions, I wonder if the organization’s belief to abstain from blood is a belief that is truly held and what the implications would be to the hospital if medical staff and the patient were relying on the organization’s HLC member for complicated blood therapy choices.
Ontarians must make informed choices as to what type of therapy is needed in consultation with their medical professionals. If an organization is teaching a belief that is not truly held and possibly misrepresenting secular facts regarding the belief, then there appears to be a concern Jehovah’s Witnesses may not make informed choices regarding their health when Hospital Liaison Committee members and other related Jehovah’s Witnesses are present at the hospital.
The question becomes can a Jehovah’s Witness truly make an informed choice when their leadership and their agents may be misrepresenting or withholding medical facts from your members and the patients?
Based on the apparent misrepresentation and omission concerns of Ms. Louderback-Wood and the AJWRB, are you willing to recommend to your member hospitals that they should ban identified Jehovah’s Witnesses who are Hospital Liaison Members, who may act as health care advocates over family members or who are part of a Patient Visitation Group when a Jehovah’s Witness patient is in hospital?
Some Jehovah’s Witnesses carry signed Duel Power of Attorney Cards that sometimes explain what blood therapies Jehovah’s Witnesses are willing to accept. Are you willing to recommend to your member hospitals not to accept these cards based on the information provided by AJWRB and Ms. Louderback-Wood?
-4-
DRAFT
Will your Association provide the attached documents and the internet site of AJWRB ( http://www.ajwrb.org ) to your hospitals or take other steps to ensure the hospitals’ medical staff has the knowledge necessary to be kept up to date on the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever changing practices over blood therapies so that patients can make informed choices?
I look forward to your response in the near future.
Yours truly,
Enclosures