Posts by happy2bfree

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GB directly appointed by Jesus, what is the WT reference in 2001?

by cyberguy in

hey folks,.

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happy2bfree

The source of the extraordinary quote I mentioned above:

While directors of a legal corporation are voted into office by its members, the Governing Body is not appointed by any man but is appointed by Jesus Christ

is:

w014/15p.29DoYouRemember?

• How does the Governing Body differ from a legal corporation?

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GB directly appointed by Jesus, what is the WT reference in 2001?

by cyberguy in

hey folks,.

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happy2bfree

I found this one in 2001 WT:

While directors of a legal corporation are voted into office by its members, the Governing Bodyis not appointed by any man but is appointed by Jesus Christ.

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GB directly appointed by Jesus, what is the WT reference in 2001?

by cyberguy in

hey folks,.

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happy2bfree

Is this what you have been looking for?

w901/15p.26GodlyDevotion—BeneficialforAllThings***In modern times the Governing Body has been closely identified with the editorial staff of the Watch Tower Society and its board of directors. But the Governing Body differs from that legal corporation, as the speaker pointed out: "Since the corporation’s existence is purely legal, with a fixed geographic headquarters, it can be dissolved by Caesar, the State." Not so the Governing Body, which is not a legal instrument but the members of which "are appointed through the holy spirit under the direction of Jehovah and Christ." Thus, the Governing Body continues to function and to receive the unqualified support of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.

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Russell started the " Cult Mind Control" in JW's Years Ago- Check this Out

by flipper in

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friends

i guess after leaving the witnesses 5 years ago - i had always thought the " control" issues had started years down the road in rutherford's time and that initially the motives were good when russell started this organization.

boy was i wrong.

i've been reading the book " kingdom of the cults " by walter martin- revised edition and thought i'd share some eye opening quotes from c.t.

happy2bfree

Mind control continues:

Watchtower, 1973 July 1st p.402

"Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or force (Zech,4:6) Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book."

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How Many Sit on the Fence?

by sammielee24 in

i was checking out another topic and pulled off something that wobble said.. given that - how many of you would go back if the wts decided to enact shunning for everybody who was not active?

if tomorrow they decided that da'ing or fading or in simple terms, being inactive for any reason whatsoever, was a shunning offense - how many would start going back immediately just so their family wouldn't be cut off?

how many would not go back and would instead would be willing to stand firm on their belief that the wts is wrong in what they teach?

happy2bfree

W ould not go back!!!

Should they force the issue and obligate my extended family to shun me, I would do everything in my power to assist them to shake off the yoke imposed on them by the hierarchy. Most likely I would go public as well, to expose the dictatorial, unchristian conduct of disfellowshipping and shunning.

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Fox News: Two days into Obama's Administration and WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

by Elsewhere in

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as jon stewart put it: fox news really scared about what might happen, oblivious to what allready has.. .

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoid=216561&title=fox-news-fear-imbalance.

.

happy2bfree

Fox News is nothing but a propaganda tool for the Republican party

What I don't understand is the staff does'nt have enough collective intelligence to be subtle about it.

Were they more subtle they would be more believible.

They are an insult to the intelligence of America......

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Who here likes this site better than the old one....a poll ?

by Homerovah the Almighty in

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friends

i just thought i'd make up a poll on people's viewpoints of who likes this site better or worse than the .

older one ?.

as for myself, i kind of liked the older one better, its just seems that the usability was better,.

happy2bfree

New one. I am sure Simon will rectify any faults.

Thank you Simon.

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Jehovah's Witnesses,Blood and South Africa

by jakes in

the refusal by jehovahs witnesses to accept life-saving blood transfusions is one issue that constantly throws the organisation into the spotlight.

blood transfusions have been banned by the jehovahs witnesses, whether it be whole or fractional, since 1945. the technicalities surrounding this issue even confuse many die-hard witnesses as this doctrine is in a constant state of flux.

many are not sure what is acceptable practice and what not.. .

happy2bfree

bttt

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Jehovah's Witnesses,Blood and South Africa

by jakes in

the refusal by jehovahs witnesses to accept life-saving blood transfusions is one issue that constantly throws the organisation into the spotlight.

blood transfusions have been banned by the jehovahs witnesses, whether it be whole or fractional, since 1945. the technicalities surrounding this issue even confuse many die-hard witnesses as this doctrine is in a constant state of flux.

many are not sure what is acceptable practice and what not.. .

happy2bfree

Great Post Robin,

Especially I like your letter “To The Elders”; you gave them no room to move. You are to be commended for your determination not let the hierarchy walk over you.

I also was impressed with the excerpt from your book, sounds very interesting, particularly your pertinent statement: “My gripe is not with the people in the organization… The doctrines that the leaders of the organization enforce on its followers that cause so much pain and family break-ups. There are many good people in the organization… They do not know of the cover-ups and the deception…” Well said!!

I too would appreciate references to the changes in blood doctrine to which you refer.

Thank you Robin.

Michael

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Why do we still refer to it as the "truth"?

by Newborn in

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friends

gives me shivers.

let's just call it for what it is: a big damnlie!!!!!.

any other good names?

happy2bfree

D eception, Fraudulence