anyway you look at it, the baptism ritual was meant for adults . John the baptist or the story of Jesus and his apostles both tell of mature people that realized they needed to repent in some way for their sins . Since the WTBTS doesn't include all members in the christian covenant you do have to look at what john the baptist was doing which would more or less be what the GC are considered, more along the lines of a foreign proselyte to the mosaic covenant and not spirit adopted sons of the christian covenant.
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well, children are mature enough to take a stand in behalf of the kingdom
by aligot ripounsous ini heard this morning the "who will be saved (n 126) " public talk.
the speaker raised the point of age baptism and he confirmed what has been pointed out a couple of times on this board, namely that, according to a trend which seems to be fairly recent within the wts, people don't have to be adults to decide they want to become jws and get baptism.
the only two examples which the speaker selected were 2 children : manaseh who, at age 12, promoted idolatry, and king yoshia who restored jehovah's worship as soon as he came to power at age 8 !
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The Great Tribulation?
by Blueblades inbesides talking about the great tribulation and using it to scare the rank and file that it is coming real soon, when was the last watchtower study that dealt with this subject in - depth?.
i think it was somewhere in the nineties.
anyone remember and know when the watchtower did an in - depth study on this teaching?.
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I believe , technically armageddon is the invisible spiritual war that takes place between the church of saints and the kings of the earth that oppose the kingdom and christianity and the saints are martyred but once the GC are in force they are saved before the beast can force a mark on them and they escape , the ones that never know death . Armageddon ends on the "great fear inspiring day of God almighty" and the destruction of all world powers or when the last saint is martyred .
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The Great Tribulation?
by Blueblades inbesides talking about the great tribulation and using it to scare the rank and file that it is coming real soon, when was the last watchtower study that dealt with this subject in - depth?.
i think it was somewhere in the nineties.
anyone remember and know when the watchtower did an in - depth study on this teaching?.
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I think I could go with the 2 fulfillments since it is pretty obvious in parts he is talking about the destruction of Israel and people having to pray their fight didn't take place at the wrong time but if he is talking about as in the days of Noah we are talking a global incident as mentioned in genesis .
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The Great Tribulation?
by Blueblades inbesides talking about the great tribulation and using it to scare the rank and file that it is coming real soon, when was the last watchtower study that dealt with this subject in - depth?.
i think it was somewhere in the nineties.
anyone remember and know when the watchtower did an in - depth study on this teaching?.
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There's noway the tribulation happened , jesus said it was one that the world had not known since it's founding so it affects the entire planet.IMO The whole thing is really based on Daniel 12 , the great time of distress where no flesh would be preserved alive if Michael didn't step in to deliver the faithful and true from certain annihilation . I think the Zions Watch Tower announced the tribulation during WW1 then moved into a postponing of it for a later date or some such dogma . I think blondie actually has the info on that.
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I just might attend this District Convention next Saturday
by Terry inreligion posted on mon, jun.
09, 2008reprint or licenseprintemail digg itdel.icio.usaimjehovah's witnesses to gather on six weekends in fort worthby terry lee goodrichstar-telegram staff writer most-read stories .
more than 42,000 jehovah's witnesses from the north texas/south oklahoma district will converge on fort worth over six weekends, with the first of the three-day events this weekend.
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sounds like fun ,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz can't wait for the part on , "we are short on the money , so let's dig a little deeper blah blah .............
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Sure , how about," millions now living will never die" . joe rutherford. Then there are allot of lies I was told by individual members .We all know the WTBTS stance on it , it's not a lie if people believe it.
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No Wings win the Stanley Cup thread?
by Badger inare you kidding me?
doesn't anyone else love the hockey?
it's the hockey!
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I was hoping the pens would win , wings just win too much ....... can't believe the stars went down like they did either ......
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News Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by TooBad TooSad inmy wife excitedly told me that she talked to the wife of an elder that just came back from.
the special training for elders in upper state new york and that the elders are being told .
to go back to their congregations and to get them ready for the great tribulation.. i said to her that is great news !!!!
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If they sell off all the kingdom halls then they won't have any place to run too when it all hits the fan. The plan for them was to ride the storm out in their buildings ,if I'm not mistaken. I think the R&F would wise up should that one fail them .
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Ethanol the untold story
by IP_SEC ini work in petroleum equipment service on the retail end.
ethanol is working itself toward a disaster.
problems behind the scenes:.
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oh another news flash is they don't just use corn for ethanol but are using sugar cane .They grow it in south america. The best deal would be to go hydrogen tho . If that converter actually works it would be nice .
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Ethanol the untold story
by IP_SEC ini work in petroleum equipment service on the retail end.
ethanol is working itself toward a disaster.
problems behind the scenes:.
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heathen
news flash , hemp is not the same as pot .